Just Leave Us Alone

[MtnWasp]

People shouldn't be climbing bell towers with assault rifles. People shouldn't be robbing banks. People shouldn't be battering their children and spouses. People shouldn't be dabbling in meth. People shouldn't be rude to old people in grocery stores. People shouldn't be making death threats on social media.

Really guys? No one disagrees.

The point is that there will always be people who do things they shouldn't. It is Human Nature 101. Public figures are vulnerable to a special set of wrong doers. It is unfortunate. Good people falling victim to the anti-social is always unfortunate.

Public figures are quick to learn that special security measures are required. Some choose not to walk down a public street or dine at a popular eatery. Withdrawing from social media seems a minor sacrifice, unfortunate or unfair though it may seem.

 

[ESPNjacket]

People shouldn't be climbing bell towers with assault rifles. People shouldn't be robbing banks. People shouldn't be battering their children and spouses. People shouldn't be dabbling in meth. People shouldn't be rude to old people in grocery stores. People shouldn't be making death threats on social media.

Really guys? No one disagrees.

The point is that there will always be people who do things they shouldn't. It is Human Nature 101. Public figures are vulnerable to a special set of wrong doers. It is unfortunate. Good people falling victim to the anti-social is always unfortunate.

Public figures are quick to learn that special security measures are required. Some choose not to walk down a public street or dine at a popular eatery. Withdrawing from social media seems a minor sacrifice, unfortunate or unfair though it may seem.

The point is that no one "invited" death threats by paying players over the table instead of under the table. It is like saying building schools invites school shootings. It takes a strange set of values to make that compute.

 

[MtnWasp]

Social media is an inviting medium for those who like to let their Id fly.

Public figures are targets to special kinds of anti-social behavior, from mere creepiness all the way to stalking and violence.

No one would argue that public figures want to be subjected to this, but it does go with the territory. One can argue that it shouldn't happen, but what difference would that make?

 

[forensicbuzz]

Death threats and death wishes aside, these kids are going to learn that there is an elevated expectation now on their performance. There is now a direct connection between money paid out by fans and the money going into the kids' pockets. The expectation is that these guys are going to perform, not just try their hardest. It's a hard life lesson for these guys (and gals) getting NIL money (read: pay-for-play) to come to these schools. Fans are going to be less forgiving when their hard-earned money is going into a bust. That's going to come out as aggressive social media posts. They need to get used to it or not take the money.

That being said, as I said to begin with, that precludes death threats, death wishes, or any other similar posts. They don't get to be "left alone;" they lost that privilege when they took 5, 6, 7-figure payouts to join a program.

 

[kg01]

The life lesson is for the adults, not the kids. There is no expectation of performance with this money.

The adults need to learn that.

Once they do, they'll stop wasting their money. Idiots.

 

[cpf2001]

At the highest levels kids have been competing hard for a chance to shine and make it to the next level for decades. And the ones without next level hopes know this is basically their last shot to play for a big crowd.

Let’s be realistic. Nobody should’ve expected paying above the table to magically change their level of play. Especially when pro athletes have never been immune to letdowns. If anything, bigger contracts have always been associated with bigger chance of disappointment - who on earth can realistically claim “I thought paying more would guarantee more” and not be laughed out of the building?


What happened to good ol fashioned peer pressure and shaming? Deliberate anti-social choices seem like the perfect thing to employ those against. If everyone says “it goes with the territory” then kids are gonna grow up to think it’s much more acceptable than they would if everyone condemned anyone doing it. It’s currently something our society indulges, but does it have to be?

 

[forensicbuzz]

The life lesson is for the adults, not the kids. There is no expectation of performance with this money.

The adults need to learn that.

Once they do, they'll stop wasting their money. Idiots.

I wholeheartedly disagree. There damn well is expectation with this money. There are HUGE expectations. If they want to "get paid," they open themselves to scrutiny that any young adult who enter the entertainment industry deal with. Go talk to young adult actors or musicians. These kids are adults (at least 18) and want to get paid like adults. There is bad that comes with the good. Once the kids learn that, they'll realize they're in the real world now, not a protected college environment. That being said, death threats, death wishes, etc., have no place in any situation.

 

[Peacone36]

I wholeheartedly disagree. There damn well is expectation with this money. There are HUGE expectations. If they want to "get paid," they open themselves to scrutiny that any young adult who enter the entertainment industry deal with. Go talk to young adult actors or musicians. These kids are adults (at least 18) and want to get paid like adults. There is bad that comes with the good. Once the kids learn that, they'll realize they're in the real world now, not a protected college environment. That being said, death threats, death wishes, etc., have no place in any situation.

100%

youre not students any longer, you’re employees.

 

[Ramble1885]

This is why I’m happy being a Georgia Tech fan even during the rough times because I can’t imagine a time where our fans would’ve done this. We thankfully have some of the classiest folks in the country, although yes there are some bad apples occasionally.

 

[ESPNjacket]

100%

youre not students any longer, you’re employees.

Somehow when I own stock in a company I don't feel compelled to publicly berate the employees if things aren't perfect. I must be strange.

 

[kg01]

I wholeheartedly disagree. There damn well is expectation with this money. There are HUGE expectations. If they want to "get paid," they open themselves to scrutiny that any young adult who enter the entertainment industry deal with. Go talk to young adult actors or musicians. These kids are adults (at least 18) and want to get paid like adults. There is bad that comes with the good. Once the kids learn that, they'll realize they're in the real world now, not a protected college environment. That being said, death threats, death wishes, etc., have no place in any situation.

Anybody that expects these kids to play better, or even play 'well', "because" they're getting paid is a fool with money.

These are the same kids they were before the money. Some played well, most didn't. Money didn't change that dynamic.

 

[kg01]

100%

youre not students any longer, you’re employees.

False.

But I get why people view it this way. They're simply wrong.

Once people come to this realization, they'll stop wasting their money on NIL.

 

[Peacone36]

Somehow when I own stock in a company I don't feel compelled to publicly berate the employees if things aren't perfect. I must be strange.

Oh me either. Im not one of the lunatics throwing beers at the NBA games. Ive never understood berating the players, ive certainly never understood throwing your own television off the balcony when you lose the super bowl. Ive always wondered how those guys would enjoy it if we yelled obscenities at them in their office.

 

[gte447f]

It doesn’t matter if the players are getting paid or not because the morons posting harassment online are not high dollar figure contributors to NIL. They are just mouth breathing morons bitching about other people’s money.

 

[Peacone36]

It doesn’t matter if the players are getting paid or not because the morons posting harassment online are not high dollar figure contributors to NIL. They are just mouth breathing morons bitching about other people’s money.

Theyre gamblers not fans. Its the newer version of fantasy players spewing hate @ their poorly constructed rosters.

 

[forensicbuzz]

Somehow when I own stock in a company I don't feel compelled to publicly berate the employees if things aren't perfect. I must be strange.

Happens all the time. CEOs (the public face of the company) get bashed all the time. Sometimes they're even assassinated. You don't see the average employee getting harrassed by anonymous internet chatter, but then again, the the AD's admin isn't getting harrassed either.

 

[forensicbuzz]

It doesn’t matter if the players are getting paid or not because the morons posting harassment online are not high dollar figure contributors to NIL. They are just mouth breathing morons bitching about other people’s money.

Professional athletes and other entertainers are not being paid directly by the people that harrass them either. The point is these kids (adults) are getting paid to perform (regardless of the legality of that, it's what's happening). Fans feel they have a right to complain about lack of performance. The caveat, as I have continuously said is that death threats, death wishes, etc., are out side expected behavior.

 

[gte447f]

Theyre gamblers not fans. Its the newer version of fantasy players spewing hate @ their poorly constructed rosters.

Yeah, a lot of them probably are pissed off desperate gamblers. The point still stands. I’m not saying you are making this argument, but the argument that the players are getting paid so people can get pissed off if they don’t perform only holds water for the people that put up the money to pay them. A ticket and a hot dog don’t count as putting up the money so your average fan, gambler, observer has no “right” to expect anything from the players in exchange for NIL dollars.

 

[gte447f]

Professional athletes and other entertainers are not being paid directly by the people that harrass them either. The point is these kids (adults) are getting paid to perform (regardless of the legality of that, it's what's happening). Fans feel they have a right to complain about lack of performance. The caveat, as I have continuously said is that death threats, death wishes, etc., are out side expected behavior.

Fans can complain because that part of what fans do, but they don’t have a “right” to complain just because the players are getting paid, because they aren’t the ones paying them.

 

[kg01]

Fans can complain because that part of what fans do, but they don’t have a “right” to complain just because the players are getting paid, because they aren’t the ones paying them.

And honestly, even if they are the ones "paying them", they shld f*ck off.

Not sure why people defend the concept of accepting boorish behavior 'because I paid my monay".

All you pay(sic) for is the effort. If you don't like the effort, stop paying. Then be mad at yourself for throwing good money after bad.