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<blockquote data-quote="AE 87" data-source="post: 186166" data-attributes="member: 195"><p>[USER=944]@MWBATL[/USER], </p><p></p><p>Thanks for your thoughtful post. Fwiw, I disagree with the logic inherent in the presentation as I understood it. I understood your point to be that the record simply reflects the talent which reflects recruiting and ultimately the institute's attitude toward having a competitive D1 program.</p><p></p><p>As has been mentioned before (I think) and here again in this thread, the Institute does not control it's degree offerings. Ultimately, iiuc, the kind of majors that attract the top football players are not majors that fall within the mission of GT as an institute of technology, making it more difficult to get them approved. </p><p></p><p>However, my biggest disagreement with the logic of the post stems from the "how" of our record during previous years. Our O was typically top 20 and D outside the top 50. In other words, the O outperformed its talent and the D seemed to under-perform its talent (though this take on D may be debated). In other words, the underlying data doesn't seem to support a simplistic talent-to-record equation.</p><p></p><p>Moreover, if you look at our actual personnel issues over the last few years, you'll see that we lost a huge chunk of guys expected to be contributors this year before the season last year, many because they weren't an academic or social fit for GT--that is, we recruited and signed better talent than could ultimately thrive at Tech. So, the kind of change you suggest would also require a change in culture, not just offerings, a change which would be hard to make in the short term without doing what UNC did.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AE 87, post: 186166, member: 195"] [USER=944]@MWBATL[/USER], Thanks for your thoughtful post. Fwiw, I disagree with the logic inherent in the presentation as I understood it. I understood your point to be that the record simply reflects the talent which reflects recruiting and ultimately the institute's attitude toward having a competitive D1 program. As has been mentioned before (I think) and here again in this thread, the Institute does not control it's degree offerings. Ultimately, iiuc, the kind of majors that attract the top football players are not majors that fall within the mission of GT as an institute of technology, making it more difficult to get them approved. However, my biggest disagreement with the logic of the post stems from the "how" of our record during previous years. Our O was typically top 20 and D outside the top 50. In other words, the O outperformed its talent and the D seemed to under-perform its talent (though this take on D may be debated). In other words, the underlying data doesn't seem to support a simplistic talent-to-record equation. Moreover, if you look at our actual personnel issues over the last few years, you'll see that we lost a huge chunk of guys expected to be contributors this year before the season last year, many because they weren't an academic or social fit for GT--that is, we recruited and signed better talent than could ultimately thrive at Tech. So, the kind of change you suggest would also require a change in culture, not just offerings, a change which would be hard to make in the short term without doing what UNC did. [/QUOTE]
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