Jahmyr Gibbs, Quez Jackson named to preseason All-ACC team

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That is nice but with so many good running backs Gibbs playing time may not be as much as some of us would like. Would love to see us use 2 running backs more often . Coach P has the weapons this year. this will tell me if he is a good coordinator .
 
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I went back and looked at their 2020 preseason list...

Curry was 2nd Team D
Mason 3rd Team O
Tre Swilling 3rd Team D
Harvin 3rd Team Specialist (3rd?!)
Jack Defoor 4th Team O
Juanyeh Thomas 4th Team D

Not that these lists mean much but....going from 6 listed down to 2 wouldn't seem to bode well. But with Mason, Tre, and Juanyeh still on the team that's kinda like 5 guys in that All-ACC conversation. IF our secondary can play better
 

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That is nice but with so many good running backs Gibbs playing time may not be as much as some of us would like. Would love to see us use 2 running backs more often . Coach P has the weapons this year. this will tell me if he is a good coordinator .
All it takes is running backs. Who needs a talented and experienced offensive line? They don't gain yards or score points, so they don't matter. Any good OC can do without them if he has good running backs.
 

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That is nice but with so many good running backs Gibbs playing time may not be as much as some of us would like. Would love to see us use 2 running backs more often . Coach P has the weapons this year. this will tell me if he is a good coordinator .
I don't care who he uses or what system he uses nor the plays he calls. If his offensive can become more efficient and yield more yards, TOP and points per drive it really doesn't matter to me who plays and who doesn't.Disclaimer: I do not have a child on the team! ;)
 

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In 6 ½ games, Gibbs gained 968 all-purpose yards and scored seven touchdowns. That total ranked 13th in the ACC, and every player ahead of him played in at least 11 games. Gibbs was also fourth in the ACC in all-purpose yardage per game at 138.3 yards per game. The three players ahead of him are all now in the NFL.
Gibbs is going to get plenty of touches if he's healthy. Our running back depth should mean that we won't have to run him into the teeth of the defense (that's Mason's job).

Not a football savant, but hopefully an improved O-line means we can replace a TE for a RB at times. Pulling a WR and going 21 personnel also works, but with a guy like McGowan at WR you already have the capability to shift him into the backfield (and Gibbs can line up in the slot as well).
 

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All it takes is running backs. Who needs a talented and experienced offensive line? They don't gain yards or score points, so they don't matter. Any good OC can do without them if he has good running backs.
I think everyone understands he didn’t have the OL he wanted but he did have one of the top run blocking OL’s in the country. When you’re going to run every single play & everyone knows it, then you still amass the kinds of yards the team amassed it’s hard to conclude they didn‘t know how to run block at a high level. Pass blocking is an entirely different story. We were probably dead last there. No question about it.

Me personally, my strategy would have been to leverage that strength & build competence in pass blocking, gradually opening up the playbook on a planned transition not just throw the baby out with the bather water. It’s done now, all we can hope is progress & brighter days ahead. Let’s all hope the misery has been worth it because it if wasn’t we’re going to have a program in mass disarray.
 

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I think everyone understands he didn’t have the OL he wanted but he did have one of the top run blocking OL’s in the country. When you’re going to run every single play & everyone knows it, then you still amass the kinds of yards the team amassed it’s hard to conclude they didn‘t know how to run block at a high level. Pass blocking is an entirely different story. We were probably dead last there. No question about it.

Me personally, my strategy would have been to leverage that strength & build competence in pass blocking, gradually opening up the playbook on a planned transition not just throw the baby out with the bather water. It’s done now, all we can hope is progress & brighter days ahead. Let’s all hope the misery has been worth it because it if wasn’t we’re going to have a program in mass disarray.
Run/pass split:
  • 2019: 62/38
  • 2020: 59/41
We ran a lot, just didn't feel like it relative to the prior O.

Yards/rush:
  • 2019: 4.1
  • 2020: 4.7
This suggests we improved our rushing attack year-over-year, despite being further from the run-heavy under center option.

The idea that run blocking is run blocking, regardless of offense, might be the premise worth discussing. (especially if we're isolating the conversation away from the players on the OL and in the backfield, relative to their fit in the offense)
 

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Run/pass split:
  • 2019: 62/38
  • 2020: 59/41
We ran a lot, just didn't feel like it relative to the prior O.

Yards/rush:
  • 2019: 4.1
  • 2020: 4.7
This suggests we improved our rushing attack year-over-year, despite being further from the run-heavy under center option.

The idea that run blocking is run blocking, regardless of offense, might be the premise worth discussing. (especially if we're isolating the conversation away from the players on the OL and in the backfield, relative to their fit in the offense)
There was improvement between year 1 & 2. And yes it wasn’t all pass & no run. My personal belief is unless you’re Fridge and have an offense that can run damn near anything, you either have the run set up the pass or vice versa. Perhaps I don‘t understand enough about what we were trying to do because it just looked disjointed on balance. If I had Gibbs and Mason plus Smith, etc I’d have rode those horses and used the dual threat of Sims running to set up the pass.

It’s all history now. Can’t wait to see what we have this year. I’m excited for the season to begin with great hope we’ll all be able to see we’re on the brink of something really good even historic in terms of what GT Football has been able to deliver.
 

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I went back and looked at their 2020 preseason list...

Curry was 2nd Team D
Mason 3rd Team O
Tre Swilling 3rd Team D
Harvin 3rd Team Specialist (3rd?!)
Jack Defoor 4th Team O
Juanyeh Thomas 4th Team D

Not that these lists mean much but....going from 6 listed down to 2 wouldn't seem to bode well. But with Mason, Tre, and Juanyeh still on the team that's kinda like 5 guys in that All-ACC conversation. IF our secondary can play better
I would expect that if Tre and Juanyeh get back to playing around the level they did 2 years ago that they will be very strongly in the conversation for All-ACC at the end of the season. Based on how they played last season I probably wouldn't have rated them pre-season All-ACC, either. And I love both of those guys and feel they are very capable of being All-ACC players. If our OL plays well then I wouldn't be surprised to see Mason make All-ACC at the end of the season, either.

I think if we win 6-7 games you'll see more than 2 guys on the post-season All-ACC list.
 

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Is Attauchu the last Jacket to be named all ACC on the dline? I'm ready for someone to make first or even second team again.
 

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I think everyone understands he didn’t have the OL he wanted but he did have one of the top run blocking OL’s in the country. When you’re going to run every single play & everyone knows it, then you still amass the kinds of yards the team amassed it’s hard to conclude they didn‘t know how to run block at a high level. Pass blocking is an entirely different story. We were probably dead last there. No question about it.

Me personally, my strategy would have been to leverage that strength & build competence in pass blocking, gradually opening up the playbook on a planned transition not just throw the baby out with the bather water. It’s done now, all we can hope is progress & brighter days ahead. Let’s all hope the misery has been worth it because it if wasn’t we’re going to have a program in mass disarray.

What? This is an entirely misleading post
 

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Run/pass split:
  • 2019: 62/38
  • 2020: 59/41
We ran a lot, just didn't feel like it relative to the prior O.

Yards/rush:
  • 2019: 4.1
  • 2020: 4.7
This suggests we improved our rushing attack year-over-year, despite being further from the run-heavy under center option.

The idea that run blocking is run blocking, regardless of offense, might be the premise worth discussing. (especially if we're isolating the conversation away from the players on the OL and in the backfield, relative to their fit in the offense)
And all run blocking is not the same. When you switch from CPJ with a lot of scooping and directional and then move to zone blocking it is apples to oranges. I spoke with a CPJ era Tech lineman a few weeks back. He said learning the CPJ offense was harder than any other offense as a lineman. He came from a shotgun spread in high school where it was zone blocking.
 
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