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<blockquote data-quote="MWBATL" data-source="post: 591973" data-attributes="member: 944"><p>Ah, I think I am finally understanding what you were saying. I also had to laugh when Trump tried to take credit for the economy so quickly after taking office. I also laugh when people try to say that Obama was a disaster or a complete failure on the economy. Whilst I disagreed with some of his policies, clearly based on the charts I posted before Obama could not be called a disaster...he helped right our economy and deserves credit for that. But as the charts and comments posted earlier also show, the economy has done even better under trump, and that is where you and I diverge. But just as you refuse to give Trump any credit for anything (or so it seems) there are some out there who feel the same way about Obama and refuse to give him any credit, even when he clearly deserves it.</p><p></p><p>We also agree that the infrastructure is falling apart, and something needs to be done about that. Politics continues to kill any potential for bi-partisan proposals. Democrats insist on forcing language into any deal which would guarantee that the work be given to union or minority contractors...that's just one example of how these things get caught up. Plus, there is such fierce resistance from the left on Trump, and has been since day 1, I think if any Democrat went along with anything he suggested they would be voted out in the next primary. So, it is very hard to see anything getting done in DC on the problems of our country, even when reasonable people can look at many of these issues and come to compromises that are at least better than what we are doing today (which most often is...nothing).</p><p></p><p>The difficulty in some respects is that we disagree on the cause of our current financial difficulties. You blame tax cuts. We were in deep trouble before long before Trumps' tax cuts though. Because of the continued march of 'socialism' in the USA. (No, not as classically defined..I am using the term colloquially here). Take Federal Spending.“Payments for individuals,” which encompass such income transfers as Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and food stamps, among other things, 47.7% of outlays in 1989 and has steadily climbed to reach an estimated 69.2% in 2019. That is an enormous increase...unprecedented in American history. When you divert that much of Federal Spending into payment programs for people, there is very little left for things like...Oh, I don't know, Defense and Infrastructure, not to mention Interest. ObamaCare was the latest huge spike in that spending on individuals. You can dream about everything. You just can't afford it all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MWBATL, post: 591973, member: 944"] Ah, I think I am finally understanding what you were saying. I also had to laugh when Trump tried to take credit for the economy so quickly after taking office. I also laugh when people try to say that Obama was a disaster or a complete failure on the economy. Whilst I disagreed with some of his policies, clearly based on the charts I posted before Obama could not be called a disaster...he helped right our economy and deserves credit for that. But as the charts and comments posted earlier also show, the economy has done even better under trump, and that is where you and I diverge. But just as you refuse to give Trump any credit for anything (or so it seems) there are some out there who feel the same way about Obama and refuse to give him any credit, even when he clearly deserves it. We also agree that the infrastructure is falling apart, and something needs to be done about that. Politics continues to kill any potential for bi-partisan proposals. Democrats insist on forcing language into any deal which would guarantee that the work be given to union or minority contractors...that's just one example of how these things get caught up. Plus, there is such fierce resistance from the left on Trump, and has been since day 1, I think if any Democrat went along with anything he suggested they would be voted out in the next primary. So, it is very hard to see anything getting done in DC on the problems of our country, even when reasonable people can look at many of these issues and come to compromises that are at least better than what we are doing today (which most often is...nothing). The difficulty in some respects is that we disagree on the cause of our current financial difficulties. You blame tax cuts. We were in deep trouble before long before Trumps' tax cuts though. Because of the continued march of 'socialism' in the USA. (No, not as classically defined..I am using the term colloquially here). Take Federal Spending.“Payments for individuals,” which encompass such income transfers as Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and food stamps, among other things, 47.7% of outlays in 1989 and has steadily climbed to reach an estimated 69.2% in 2019. That is an enormous increase...unprecedented in American history. When you divert that much of Federal Spending into payment programs for people, there is very little left for things like...Oh, I don't know, Defense and Infrastructure, not to mention Interest. ObamaCare was the latest huge spike in that spending on individuals. You can dream about everything. You just can't afford it all. [/QUOTE]
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