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<blockquote data-quote="MWBATL" data-source="post: 591970" data-attributes="member: 944"><p>This is a very intriguing topic. Why? Because both sides feel aggrieved.</p><p></p><p>First, let me remind you of the obvious...only one political party has actually had people shot by activists from the other side.....and it wasn't done by white nationalists.</p><p></p><p>You are correct that hate crime reports are up. But, once again, I urge you to look deeper at the data. Reporting is still in the process of being implemented. In 2017 nearly 1,000 additional agencies across the US began feeding hate crimes stats into the FBI database. Here is what another right wing site, PolitiFact had to say on the topic:</p><p></p><p><em>Both data collected by Levin and FBI has a caveat — they contain the reported crimes only. The Bureau of Justice Statistics, however, reports a much larger number of hate crimes, typically over 20,000 from 2009 to 2017. Instead of using police data, the agency conducted the National Crime Victimization Survey and counted unreported offenses where hate languages and symbols were present.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Data from the newest <a href="https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/hcs1317pp.pdf" target="_blank">BJS hate crimes statistics briefing</a> — different from the FBI data — s<strong>hows that there’s a significant decrease of hate crimes overall from 2014 to 2017</strong>, plunging 25% in 2015, and staying almost flat under 20,000 from 2015 to 2017 (the annual total is calculated with a three-year-average for each year and rounded to the nearest hundreds). </em></p><p></p><p>Many left-wing sites, who like to pander to their audiences the way Fox does to the right-wing audience, see the raw FBI data and since it can be used to support their narrative, they jump on it. You are correct that I do not consider the Souhern Poverty Law Center a reliable data collector anymore. <strong>The good news is that many are waking up to the Southern Poverty Law Center.</strong> The FBI used to partner with them in identifying hate groups. They no longer do. The Army used to have them lecture on domestic terrorism. The Army has ended that relationship. Their definition of hate groups has been expanded over the years. It now includes....well, conservative groups. The Legal organization that defends conservatives who otherwise cannot afford to pay for legal defense, the Alliance Defdning Freedom, is on their list as a hate group. You take these folks at their word? Please keep in mind that the more they frighten people about hate groups, the more money they take in.......think about that. I will leave you with a list of hateful things done by the left......</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.conservapedia.com/Left-wing_violence_in_the_Trump_era" target="_blank">https://www.conservapedia.com/Left-wing_violence_in_the_Trump_era</a></p><p></p><p>Yeah, it's a really long list...and if you go through it line by line, some of it might even be exaggerated or misunderstandings...but it is a long list. Please don't pretend only one side is responsible for increased violence in the political rhetoric.</p><p></p><p>Why do I think many on the extreme left hate Trump so much? Honestly, it is because he is so much like them...angry and willing to exaggerate and even lie to make his points, uses inflammatory language and selective statistics........Trump is just on the other side of the aisle.</p><p></p><p>I continue to believe and pray that the extreme left is a small minority. As is the extreme right.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, do you know any white nationalists? I know lots of folks, on both sides of the aisle, of all races and creeds, and virtually everyone I know personally I would say is more moderate than ANY of the politicians I see on TV. And certainly more moderate than any of the TV commentators.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MWBATL, post: 591970, member: 944"] This is a very intriguing topic. Why? Because both sides feel aggrieved. First, let me remind you of the obvious...only one political party has actually had people shot by activists from the other side.....and it wasn't done by white nationalists. You are correct that hate crime reports are up. But, once again, I urge you to look deeper at the data. Reporting is still in the process of being implemented. In 2017 nearly 1,000 additional agencies across the US began feeding hate crimes stats into the FBI database. Here is what another right wing site, PolitiFact had to say on the topic: [I]Both data collected by Levin and FBI has a caveat — they contain the reported crimes only. The Bureau of Justice Statistics, however, reports a much larger number of hate crimes, typically over 20,000 from 2009 to 2017. Instead of using police data, the agency conducted the National Crime Victimization Survey and counted unreported offenses where hate languages and symbols were present. Data from the newest [URL='https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/hcs1317pp.pdf']BJS hate crimes statistics briefing[/URL] — different from the FBI data — s[B]hows that there’s a significant decrease of hate crimes overall from 2014 to 2017[/B], plunging 25% in 2015, and staying almost flat under 20,000 from 2015 to 2017 (the annual total is calculated with a three-year-average for each year and rounded to the nearest hundreds). [/I] Many left-wing sites, who like to pander to their audiences the way Fox does to the right-wing audience, see the raw FBI data and since it can be used to support their narrative, they jump on it. You are correct that I do not consider the Souhern Poverty Law Center a reliable data collector anymore. [B]The good news is that many are waking up to the Southern Poverty Law Center.[/B] The FBI used to partner with them in identifying hate groups. They no longer do. The Army used to have them lecture on domestic terrorism. The Army has ended that relationship. Their definition of hate groups has been expanded over the years. It now includes....well, conservative groups. The Legal organization that defends conservatives who otherwise cannot afford to pay for legal defense, the Alliance Defdning Freedom, is on their list as a hate group. You take these folks at their word? Please keep in mind that the more they frighten people about hate groups, the more money they take in.......think about that. I will leave you with a list of hateful things done by the left...... [URL]https://www.conservapedia.com/Left-wing_violence_in_the_Trump_era[/URL] Yeah, it's a really long list...and if you go through it line by line, some of it might even be exaggerated or misunderstandings...but it is a long list. Please don't pretend only one side is responsible for increased violence in the political rhetoric. Why do I think many on the extreme left hate Trump so much? Honestly, it is because he is so much like them...angry and willing to exaggerate and even lie to make his points, uses inflammatory language and selective statistics........Trump is just on the other side of the aisle. I continue to believe and pray that the extreme left is a small minority. As is the extreme right. Honestly, do you know any white nationalists? I know lots of folks, on both sides of the aisle, of all races and creeds, and virtually everyone I know personally I would say is more moderate than ANY of the politicians I see on TV. And certainly more moderate than any of the TV commentators. [/QUOTE]
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