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<blockquote data-quote="slugboy" data-source="post: 365382" data-attributes="member: 282"><p>I was here when Ross coached. He was a great coach for us. I'd say he was a little better than CPJ, but</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">It was a lot easier for us to compete then than now. The money advantage the top 10-15 programs have now is amazing. I'd have to go back to the 1960's/1970's when Alabama had unlimited football scholarships (or in the 1970's was "limited" to 105 scholarships, see <a href="https://www.sapling.com/8144923/history-sports-scholarships" target="_blank">https://www.sapling.com/8144923/history-sports-scholarships</a>) to see it as being this uneven a playing field. Some of this is our own fault in how we managed the program under Braine, Radakovich, and Bobinski, but some of it is environmental. We've beaten this horse to death, but I'll throw it out here again. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The year after the national championship, we were bowling in a low-tier bowl in Hawaii. The wheels were popping off the wagon. Some of the kids were stealing and selling books. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Ross left right after that. The cupboard wasn't bare, but if he stayed he'd have needed to turn things around. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">When he got hired, the buzz was that we'd upgraded our coach from Curry. Then, we spent the next couple of years thinking he just didn't have it as a coach. Then, for the last half of the national championship season, he was the greatest coach on earth. For the first half of the national championship season, you could walk into the stadium halfway through the first quarter with your student ID and still get into the game. Then, the next season, people thought he'd lost control of the team. It was after O'Leary came back that people remember him as the best coach ever. (I've heard people say "no, I knew he was a great coach then", but I didn't hear many people say that at the time aside from the 1990 season)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">He went 31-26-1 at GT, for a 53% winning percentage. Bill Curry had gone 5-5-1 and 9-2-1 the year before Ross was hired, and it took Ross three years to have a winning record. Ross was here for 5 seasons, and went 2-9, 3-8, 7-4, 11-0-1 (with a tremendous group of players), and 8-5. </li> </ol><p>CPJ is up among the better coaches we've had. He can do better, and I think he's had the opportunity to do much better than he has. But things are nowhere near as clear cut as some of you are saying. </p><p></p><p>(And for those of you saying "Chan Gailey", he had Calvin Johnson for three years because he grew up watching a Ralph Friedgen offense with Little Joe, and proceeded to go 7-5, 7-5, and 9-5 with one of the greatest players we ever had. I'm not saying Calvin would come here today with CPJ, but if he did, we'd be tearing up the ACC right now).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="slugboy, post: 365382, member: 282"] I was here when Ross coached. He was a great coach for us. I'd say he was a little better than CPJ, but [LIST=1] [*]It was a lot easier for us to compete then than now. The money advantage the top 10-15 programs have now is amazing. I'd have to go back to the 1960's/1970's when Alabama had unlimited football scholarships (or in the 1970's was "limited" to 105 scholarships, see [URL]https://www.sapling.com/8144923/history-sports-scholarships[/URL]) to see it as being this uneven a playing field. Some of this is our own fault in how we managed the program under Braine, Radakovich, and Bobinski, but some of it is environmental. We've beaten this horse to death, but I'll throw it out here again. [*]The year after the national championship, we were bowling in a low-tier bowl in Hawaii. The wheels were popping off the wagon. Some of the kids were stealing and selling books. [*]Ross left right after that. The cupboard wasn't bare, but if he stayed he'd have needed to turn things around. [*]When he got hired, the buzz was that we'd upgraded our coach from Curry. Then, we spent the next couple of years thinking he just didn't have it as a coach. Then, for the last half of the national championship season, he was the greatest coach on earth. For the first half of the national championship season, you could walk into the stadium halfway through the first quarter with your student ID and still get into the game. Then, the next season, people thought he'd lost control of the team. It was after O'Leary came back that people remember him as the best coach ever. (I've heard people say "no, I knew he was a great coach then", but I didn't hear many people say that at the time aside from the 1990 season) [*]He went 31-26-1 at GT, for a 53% winning percentage. Bill Curry had gone 5-5-1 and 9-2-1 the year before Ross was hired, and it took Ross three years to have a winning record. Ross was here for 5 seasons, and went 2-9, 3-8, 7-4, 11-0-1 (with a tremendous group of players), and 8-5. [/LIST] CPJ is up among the better coaches we've had. He can do better, and I think he's had the opportunity to do much better than he has. But things are nowhere near as clear cut as some of you are saying. (And for those of you saying "Chan Gailey", he had Calvin Johnson for three years because he grew up watching a Ralph Friedgen offense with Little Joe, and proceeded to go 7-5, 7-5, and 9-5 with one of the greatest players we ever had. I'm not saying Calvin would come here today with CPJ, but if he did, we'd be tearing up the ACC right now). [/QUOTE]
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