GT Wins a Couple Herbie Awards

Fatmike91

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Ohio State was one win away (Michigan State in the Big 10 Championship) from going to the National Championship in 2013. In 2012, they were undefeated but weren't allowed to play in the postseason. Not including last year, they were 24-2 in their last two seasons. 38-3 if you count last year. They didn't just magically get good overnight.


LOL - and they lost to one of the worst teams in the ACC last year.

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ClydeBrick

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Ohio State was one win away (Michigan State in the Big 10 Championship) from going to the National Championship in 2013. In 2012, they were undefeated but weren't allowed to play in the postseason. Not including last year, they were 24-2 in their last two seasons. 38-3 if you count last year.

Regardless, what they did in 2012 & 2013 doesn't change the fact that only in 2014 would they have gotten a sniff at the national championship. Under any previous system they would never jump from 5th to the title game.

And it doesn't change the fact that the last thing the ACC did last season was suck against the Ducks. Thus, most of the media picks the ACC to have no shot this year. The point of @Whiskey_Clear in his post and my post after it.

They didn't just magically get good overnight.

No, Meyer came to town. (am I doin it rite?) :)
 

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Umm, F$U stunk up the joint in the Rose Bowl. That play is that game's popular take-away in one nugget. Then the Ducks went on to lose big to a team that in every year prior to last would not have been anywhere near the championship game. Thus the cool kids conclude:

ACC should have not have been in the final four last year - and last year is the only thing anyone has to predict this year. So . . .

Obviously the ACC sucks, will continue to suck and has no shot at the playoff in 2015.
Okay, kind of slow but I get it. We can only hope that Tech continues to get better, and can continue recruiting QBs, and that Miami and VT get back to what they were and FSU and Clemson stay strong, and the rest of the ACC hire better coaches. Pittsburgh might eventually be okay but except for BKB, now also wrecked, it's hard to figure why Syracuse is in the ACC. Louisville will be strong I know, but I just don't like them. Kind of give the ACC a slithery look. (WF is toast, again, having lost the magic of 5th year redshirts, and Duke has had its moment. Proof of that is in this year's schedule. Cutcliffe knew what he was doing.) UNC is just UNC and if they couldn't get it done cheating I doubt they can get there fairly.
 

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If GT Wins ACC with 1 loss and beats UGA and Notre Dame out of conference they would be in final 4
unless:
Clemson & FSU have 7/8 wins
Va Tech, Miami, UNC, Pitt all have bad years
or
3 of the other team are undefeated
 

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It's okay that here we are extrapolating our chances for the championship, an unbeaten season, toughest opponents and option football in general. But so far not one word about the first opponent, Alcorn State, a team I know nothing about except somewhere I saw they had a good QB. I gather they are being paid for being a sacrificial lamb, but we could be talking our way onto the spit.
 

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We in if we win.
TCU/Baylor can't lose a game. Emphasis on CANT Big whatever it is wont get the benefit until they have a title game.
 

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We in if we win.
TCU/Baylor can't lose a game. Emphasis on CANT Big whatever it is wont get the benefit until they have a title game.

I think you should be right but don't think you are. There will be pressure to include the Big 12 this year, and perception is against acc. All things equal, acc is left out. The acc champ needs to have fewer losses than others, imo.
 

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Here's the 1 min from Herbstreit on why he picked JT

I'm not sure it will link, but there's a good piece in The Birddog that links to a Bill Wagner column in the Annapolis paper addressing the legend and fantasies surrounding the option as Navy moves to a conference; the old "coaches will get used to it" refrain. Great comments from Chad Morris at SMU, most recently Clemson -- "The triple option is a beautiful thing when you get it going" -- the Navy coach and his QB who kind of see the whole thing as laughable. Said the QB, ..."the only people who can stop the triple-option are the people running the offense" In our case, Thomas, the very best, and personally I think Herbstreit is right, Thomas can have a monster year. (Nice plug to watch Georgia Tech at the end, by the way).

http://www.capitalgazette.com/sports/navy_sports/ph-ac-cs-navy-option-aac-080615-20150805-story.html
 
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