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<blockquote data-quote="GTLorenzo" data-source="post: 892450" data-attributes="member: 359"><p>So I will agree and disagree with you here. I think Collins is beyond just a symptom of the problem. I think he was likely pushed by some big dollar guys and that's the direction TStan went, in large part because he had been here before and the huge transition from Johnson. I think the 7 year contract was too much and, in all honesty, he was probably the sacrificial lamb after Johnson and the next guy will be in much better shape than Collins was in when he came.</p><p></p><p>I think sometimes it is good to have a connection to GT previously, so you will know what you're getting in to here, but I think that can also be a negative and limit us as to who we will look at for a hire. Further, as has been said over and over, Collins brought so much of the anger/hatred on himself ("not talking to you," Money Down, Juice Crew, sideline workouts, goofy clothes, etc.). If he had just marketed the team and program in a more than typical manner, but not the overly aggressive manner he did, he may not have lost so many people. Perhaps TStan told him, "you've got four years just to get your guys in and then we'll start the clock" and so he didn't care how it came off. But when you have major game management and preparation issues and are over the top in your mannerisms, you lose a lot of people.</p><p></p><p>I agree that we don't think we can do better. I think we can. I think the next hire, presuming we don't have a major turnaround this year is either Long or a proven G5 coach. Like I said, we've got more talent here than we did a couple of years ago, so the next guy will be in better shape. If the O looks good, maybe Long gets a look. If not, maybe some rising G5 coach can come in and turn us into an Iowa State, Minnesota, Kentucky type team. </p><p></p><p>Just my $0.02 + inflation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GTLorenzo, post: 892450, member: 359"] So I will agree and disagree with you here. I think Collins is beyond just a symptom of the problem. I think he was likely pushed by some big dollar guys and that's the direction TStan went, in large part because he had been here before and the huge transition from Johnson. I think the 7 year contract was too much and, in all honesty, he was probably the sacrificial lamb after Johnson and the next guy will be in much better shape than Collins was in when he came. I think sometimes it is good to have a connection to GT previously, so you will know what you're getting in to here, but I think that can also be a negative and limit us as to who we will look at for a hire. Further, as has been said over and over, Collins brought so much of the anger/hatred on himself ("not talking to you," Money Down, Juice Crew, sideline workouts, goofy clothes, etc.). If he had just marketed the team and program in a more than typical manner, but not the overly aggressive manner he did, he may not have lost so many people. Perhaps TStan told him, "you've got four years just to get your guys in and then we'll start the clock" and so he didn't care how it came off. But when you have major game management and preparation issues and are over the top in your mannerisms, you lose a lot of people. I agree that we don't think we can do better. I think we can. I think the next hire, presuming we don't have a major turnaround this year is either Long or a proven G5 coach. Like I said, we've got more talent here than we did a couple of years ago, so the next guy will be in better shape. If the O looks good, maybe Long gets a look. If not, maybe some rising G5 coach can come in and turn us into an Iowa State, Minnesota, Kentucky type team. Just my $0.02 + inflation. [/QUOTE]
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