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<blockquote data-quote="Technut1990" data-source="post: 758954" data-attributes="member: 3774"><p>I think the problem is that the demand for production, which even the most cerebral among us eventually give in to Is so controlling. Groh was thought to be the hire. Coupled with a high output offense most of us were very happy when he was hired but if I remember correctly his defenses were too complicated and had to be simplified Because they were always out of position and couldn’t stop anyone. The swing and miss issue comes from the pressure to win, it can be an optical illusion, everyone is in a hurry. Could Groh have fixed our defense given 5 years ? Would Venables produce a first class defense fast enough for us to keep him ? Sure money is an issue, everyone goes where the money is but on this topic I think time is the bigger problem. Winners attract other successful people, just like teams but the opposite is true also. If we do get a great DC we won’t know it for 2-3 years but if we give a bad DC 2-3 years, well we won’t know he is bad for that long either. If Collins can recruit four star defensive guys it will be easier to see (for a controlled measurement), it would be easier to evaluate DC ability. The bigger question is will we, or can we -emotionally, give anyone 2-5 years to show they are worth keeping ? Everything being equal we should start seeing the trend in the 3rd year, if 3 star players are looking lost then it’s the coach, if they are doing the right things but just outmatched then we should give more time and see if the 4 stars coming in are the answer. Right now I see both player types on our defense Some are getting beat on plays by future NFL players others are getting beat by 3rd string NCAA players.</p><p></p><p>I personally don’t think we have to pay big money to get the guy, I think we will have to pay big money to keep him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Technut1990, post: 758954, member: 3774"] I think the problem is that the demand for production, which even the most cerebral among us eventually give in to Is so controlling. Groh was thought to be the hire. Coupled with a high output offense most of us were very happy when he was hired but if I remember correctly his defenses were too complicated and had to be simplified Because they were always out of position and couldn’t stop anyone. The swing and miss issue comes from the pressure to win, it can be an optical illusion, everyone is in a hurry. Could Groh have fixed our defense given 5 years ? Would Venables produce a first class defense fast enough for us to keep him ? Sure money is an issue, everyone goes where the money is but on this topic I think time is the bigger problem. Winners attract other successful people, just like teams but the opposite is true also. If we do get a great DC we won’t know it for 2-3 years but if we give a bad DC 2-3 years, well we won’t know he is bad for that long either. If Collins can recruit four star defensive guys it will be easier to see (for a controlled measurement), it would be easier to evaluate DC ability. The bigger question is will we, or can we -emotionally, give anyone 2-5 years to show they are worth keeping ? Everything being equal we should start seeing the trend in the 3rd year, if 3 star players are looking lost then it’s the coach, if they are doing the right things but just outmatched then we should give more time and see if the 4 stars coming in are the answer. Right now I see both player types on our defense Some are getting beat on plays by future NFL players others are getting beat by 3rd string NCAA players. I personally don’t think we have to pay big money to get the guy, I think we will have to pay big money to keep him. [/QUOTE]
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