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Iman Shumpert is part of the cast of Season 30 of Dancing With The Stars - season starts on September 20. His pro partner has not been announced yet.
 

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Iman seems to be doing well for himself post NBA. Good for him. Guess I will have to watch that reality thing of his sometime. :)
 

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Iman Shumpert is part of the cast of Season 30 of Dancing With The Stars - season starts on September 20. His pro partner has not been announced yet.

First night review from critic Rebecca Iannucci:


Iman Shumpert and pro Daniella Karagach (Jive): Folks, my jaw dropped when I saw Iman keeping up with Daniella during those side-by-side sections. The speed! The grasp on choreography! If Iman stays in the competition, I hope Daniella challenges him with some more legitimate ballroom content, instead of padding routines with groovy interludes like she did here (and often did with last year’s partner, Nelly). But for a Week 1 jive? That was strong. Judges’ Score: 21/40
 

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First night review from critic Rebecca Iannucci:


Iman Shumpert and pro Daniella Karagach (Jive): Folks, my jaw dropped when I saw Iman keeping up with Daniella during those side-by-side sections. The speed! The grasp on choreography! If Iman stays in the competition, I hope Daniella challenges him with some more legitimate ballroom content, instead of padding routines with groovy interludes like she did here (and often did with last year’s partner, Nelly). But for a Week 1 jive? That was strong. Judges’ Score: 21/40
Tech guys usually win the crowd over on this show.
 

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That is a reasonable summary of where we are. And, why the preseason projection is for us to finish 9th in the conference.

Most of us feel much better about Smith and Sturdivant at PG, but the writer's POV about the 5 is exactly like mine. It is unreasonable for us to expect anything but a big drop-off in every category from Wright's last two years.

In the Not-So-Secret Scrimmage we finish within 14 points of Alabama with our two main guys playing about 1/3 the minutes we will see from them during the season. Alabama is a preseason Top 15 team. We don't have much to go on, but I find that encouraging.
 

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The issue I have with the take on our big men for next year is that it seems to write off a big jump in production from a spot where we have gotten exactly that 4 of the 5 years Pastner has been here with coch rev.


Lammers as a soph 15 mpg, 3.6 ppg, 4 rpg, 1.3 bpg.
Lammers as a JR 35 mpg, 14.2 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 3.4 bpg

James Banks as a soph ~8 mpg. 2ppg, 2 rpg if we're rounding up. .7 bpg
James Banks as a JR - 30 mpg, 10.5 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 2.5 bpg

Moses Wright as a soph 18.5 mpg. 6.7 ppg, 3.7 rpg, .6 bpg
Moses Wright as a Jr 30.4 mpg, 13 ppg, 7 rpg, 1.1 bpg
Moses Wright as a SR 35.3 mpg, 17 ppg, 8 rpb, 1.6 bpg (also went from .9 assists to 2.3 assists per game)

So I don't think it's fair to say that Pastner has no good option at Center. He has no proven option and it would take a big leap in production for us to the production we need from the 5 spot from any of our options. However, We have gotten exactly that type in increase in production several times already from 3 different players under this staff at that exact position.
 

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The issue I have with the take on our big men for next year is that it seems to write off a big jump in production from a spot where we have gotten exactly that 4 of the 5 years Pastner has been here with coch rev.


Lammers as a soph 15 mpg, 3.6 ppg, 4 rpg, 1.3 bpg.
Lammers as a JR 35 mpg, 14.2 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 3.4 bpg

James Banks as a soph ~8 mpg. 2ppg, 2 rpg if we're rounding up. .7 bpg
James Banks as a JR - 30 mpg, 10.5 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 2.5 bpg

Moses Wright as a soph 18.5 mpg. 6.7 ppg, 3.7 rpg, .6 bpg
Moses Wright as a Jr 30.4 mpg, 13 ppg, 7 rpg, 1.1 bpg
Moses Wright as a SR 35.3 mpg, 17 ppg, 8 rpb, 1.6 bpg (also went from .9 assists to 2.3 assists per game)

So I don't think it's fair to say that Pastner has no good option at Center. He has no proven option and it would take a big leap in production for us to the production we need from the 5 spot from any of our options. However, We have gotten exactly that type in increase in production several times already from 3 different players under this staff at that exact position.
I agree with you that Pastner has turned what seemed like a weakness into a strength in the past. That said, we are very likely to have something less than the ACC POY at the 5 this season.
 

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I agree with you that Pastner has turned what seemed like a weakness into a strength in the past. That said, we are very likely to have something less than the ACC POY at the 5 this season.

But it is silly to look at it as if it's a math equation where everything else is staying the same. Realistically if we're look at who is to replace Jose and Moses in terms of importance and impact the answer is Mike and Ush. IMO Mike can definately play at a similar level to Moses or Jose and I think Ush has high potential as well. The real question is who will replace the spots they leave behind as 3rd and 4th option. IMO whichever PG wins the starting job is likely to be playing at a level comparable to Ush last year. So will Moore/Coleman be able to step in and give us a third reliable scorer that Devoe was last year? I don't know, but I am very excited about Coleman.

The 5 spot will likely be our weakest spot next year. However I think there is a decent chance we get more production from the 5 spot this year than we got from the 3 spot last year which was our weakest spot.
 

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But it is silly to look at it as if it's a math equation where everything else is staying the same. Realistically if we're look at who is to replace Jose and Moses in terms of importance and impact the answer is Mike and Ush. IMO Mike can definately play at a similar level to Moses or Jose and I think Ush has high potential as well. The real question is who will replace the spots they leave behind as 3rd and 4th option. IMO whichever PG wins the starting job is likely to be playing at a level comparable to Ush last year. So will Moore/Coleman be able to step in and give us a third reliable scorer that Devoe was last year? I don't know, but I am very excited about Coleman.

The 5 spot will likely be our weakest spot next year. However I think there is a decent chance we get more production from the 5 spot this year than we got from the 3 spot last year which was our weakest spot.
Coleman and Kelly can score from anywhere. Question is - how long to adapt to the defensive scheme
 

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But it is silly to look at it as if it's a math equation where everything else is staying the same.
I don't think that is what I said. It is certainly not what I meant. And, I do not think everything else is staying the same. Certainly our PG position will also be very different in 2021 than in the past four years. Defensively and offensively, the loss of Jose will be felt.

I think DeVoe could be a much better player this year and the absence of Jose make be one of the reasons. I want to see if Ush can actually improve on last season. The only real weakness I saw in his game was his shooting. If he can hit 35% of his 3s and 75% of his FTs he will be All-ACC. But he has not done that as a full time player. Can Khalid Moore be a better shooter or is he simply defensive specialist? Will Kyle and Smith and Bubba together make up for the loss of Jose on either end of the floor? Who will take over the leadership role that Jose willingly performed? None of our recruits can be counted on right now. We feel really good that one or two will emerge, but we are devoted fans.

If I am an unbiased observer I will say these are serious questions over and beyond the backfill problem at the 5.
 
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