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<blockquote data-quote="Techster" data-source="post: 290856" data-attributes="member: 360"><p>Coaching trees are fluid. Very few coaching trees are "pure". Some on here want to attribute Jim McElwain to Saban, but he did a lot of his work pre Saban (For John L Smith at Louisville, and for another coach at Montana before that). Jimbo Fisher? Got his coaching break with Terry Bowden at Samford, then followed him to Auburn. He also made another stop at Cincy before joining Saban at LSU. </p><p></p><p>Do you really want to equate a coach going to a seminar to another coach serving 2 full years under a HC as an offensive coordinator? If you don't see the difference in "logic" of that, then why are you even trying to argue this? </p><p></p><p>Whether you agree or not, once a coach becomes part of a staff, they ultimately are part of the HC's coaching tree from that point forward. IMO, at that point it becomes how much of an influence that HC has on the other assistant coach. In the coaching world, you look at philosophies and schemes and how it's related up the branches. In that sense, Kiffin is more closely related to Norm Chow than he is to Carroll or Saban. By your measure of "just because he went to Bama to see how Saban does something does not mean he actually is going to use any of it"...well, Kiffin pretty much blew up the Carroll playbook at every stop so does that eliminate him from the coaching tree?</p><p></p><p>BTW, to illustrate my point that coaches can be part of multiple trees (and this is dated):</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]2271[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Techster, post: 290856, member: 360"] Coaching trees are fluid. Very few coaching trees are "pure". Some on here want to attribute Jim McElwain to Saban, but he did a lot of his work pre Saban (For John L Smith at Louisville, and for another coach at Montana before that). Jimbo Fisher? Got his coaching break with Terry Bowden at Samford, then followed him to Auburn. He also made another stop at Cincy before joining Saban at LSU. Do you really want to equate a coach going to a seminar to another coach serving 2 full years under a HC as an offensive coordinator? If you don't see the difference in "logic" of that, then why are you even trying to argue this? Whether you agree or not, once a coach becomes part of a staff, they ultimately are part of the HC's coaching tree from that point forward. IMO, at that point it becomes how much of an influence that HC has on the other assistant coach. In the coaching world, you look at philosophies and schemes and how it's related up the branches. In that sense, Kiffin is more closely related to Norm Chow than he is to Carroll or Saban. By your measure of "just because he went to Bama to see how Saban does something does not mean he actually is going to use any of it"...well, Kiffin pretty much blew up the Carroll playbook at every stop so does that eliminate him from the coaching tree? BTW, to illustrate my point that coaches can be part of multiple trees (and this is dated): [ATTACH=full]2271[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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