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Last year due in part to being fresh off covid as well as the team being terrible attendance was the worst in decades, last year averaging around 38,000. I've looked at ticket maps that show what seats are available and what seats are taken. The Clemson game is of course sold out bc MBS will only be holding 45K for our game. The game vs WCU is probably gonna have 40K+ because of the ATL DAY giveaway, which is good. The Ole Miss game might be a sellout, I've checked and the lower bowl is about 98% sold, and ole miss will probably hog some of the upper deck. Last time we had a crowd of over 50,000 that was not a Clemson or Georgia game was vs Jacksonville State in 2017. Our other three home games vs Duke, UVA, and Miami will probably have a crowd of between 35-45 thousand depending on how Tech is doing and how the road team is doing. Regardless, we likely see a increase in our attendance numbers this season.
 

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Last year due in part to being fresh off covid as well as the team being terrible attendance was the worst in decades, last year averaging around 38,000. I've looked at ticket maps that show what seats are available and what seats are taken. The Clemson game is of course sold out bc MBS will only be holding 45K for our game. The game vs WCU is probably gonna have 40K+ because of the ATL DAY giveaway, which is good. The Ole Miss game might be a sellout, I've checked and the lower bowl is about 98% sold, and ole miss will probably hog some of the upper deck. Last time we had a crowd of over 50,000 that was not a Clemson or Georgia game was vs Jacksonville State in 2017. Our other three home games vs Duke, UVA, and Miami will probably have a crowd of between 35-45 thousand depending on how Tech is doing and how the road team is doing. Regardless, we likely see a increase in our attendance numbers this season.
I like the positivity
 

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I thank you for joining the site. Your posts add content with your opinion.
I particularly like this post (which is your 56 th post ) because it agrees with what saw when I moved my season tickets.

The upside of Miami game could be epicly good or bad. Will be loud.
 

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Last year due in part to being fresh off covid as well as the team being terrible attendance was the worst in decades, last year averaging around 38,000. I've looked at ticket maps that show what seats are available and what seats are taken. The Clemson game is of course sold out bc MBS will only be holding 45K for our game. The game vs WCU is probably gonna have 40K+ because of the ATL DAY giveaway, which is good. The Ole Miss game might be a sellout, I've checked and the lower bowl is about 98% sold, and ole miss will probably hog some of the upper deck. Last time we had a crowd of over 50,000 that was not a Clemson or Georgia game was vs Jacksonville State in 2017. Our other three home games vs Duke, UVA, and Miami will probably have a crowd of between 35-45 thousand depending on how Tech is doing and how the road team is doing. Regardless, we likely see a increase in our attendance numbers this season.
Hopefully these will be turnstile numbers and not tickets distributed. The Clemson game would have sold 55,000 at BDS, the Ole Miss should sell out. And frankly 35,000 for Duke, UVA and Miami is not sustainable in the long run. You can't have 20,000 empty seats in lost revenue. Winning will cure some attendance woes. 6 wins is the floor!
 

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Hopefully these will be turnstile numbers and not tickets distributed. The Clemson game would have sold 55,000 at BDS, the Ole Miss should sell out. And frankly 35,000 for Duke, UVA and Miami is not sustainable in the long run. You can't have 20,000 empty seats in lost revenue. Winning will cure some attendance woes. 6 wins is the floor!
yes that's obvious. people want a winner.
 

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Hopefully these will be turnstile numbers and not tickets distributed. The Clemson game would have sold 55,000 at BDS, the Ole Miss should sell out. And frankly 35,000 for Duke, UVA and Miami is not sustainable in the long run. You can't have 20,000 empty seats in lost revenue. Winning will cure some attendance woes. 6 wins is the floor!
Pretty sure these are tickets sold numbers. It's pretty amazing we've lost 10k tickets sold per game. That's $3M/yr just in ticket revenue.
 

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Last year due in part to being fresh off covid as well as the team being terrible attendance was the worst in decades, last year averaging around 38,000. I've looked at ticket maps that show what seats are available and what seats are taken. The Clemson game is of course sold out bc MBS will only be holding 45K for our game. The game vs WCU is probably gonna have 40K+ because of the ATL DAY giveaway, which is good. The Ole Miss game might be a sellout, I've checked and the lower bowl is about 98% sold, and ole miss will probably hog some of the upper deck. Last time we had a crowd of over 50,000 that was not a Clemson or Georgia game was vs Jacksonville State in 2017. Our other three home games vs Duke, UVA, and Miami will probably have a crowd of between 35-45 thousand depending on how Tech is doing and how the road team is doing. Regardless, we likely see a increase in our attendance numbers this season.
Increase in attendance this season? Wow, you're dreaming. You're still a kid (you said in another thread you weren't born yet when people brought up stadium highlights that happened in 2006) so I understand that you may not understand how this works. Announced "attendance" does NOT equal Tech fan butts in seats. It's purely tickets sold... that includes Ticketmaster and other broker companies that buy a bunch to resell, corporations who buy suites and tickets to give to clients as a marketing ploy, scalpers acquire a bunch and try to flip for meager profit, Tech ticket holders who sell when they can't or won't attend, and many season ticket or game ticket holders who've lost all faith in this current regime aren't showing up in droves and just leave their seats empty and unused. Buying season tickets is the primary avenue a lot of fans choose to support the program even though they don't give to A-T or directly to GTAA, and decide on gameday that attending isn't an enjoyable enough experience to justify the additional investment in time and effort. So they write it off to being a donation to the program. Not interested enough to go to the games is called "Apathy", or even worse. GTAA is suppressing this year's season ticket sales numbers, why do you think that is?

The announced attendance at home games the past couple years has been worthy of the ridicule. They report tickets sold, not the actual turnstile counts, and haven't for decades. At an FCS or Duke or other non-prime opponent game, who hasn't heard the announced attendance and looked around the stadium and said "WTF? What orifice did they pull THAT number from?" and laugh?
 
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The other part here and it has been mentioned in other threads is GT is managing ticket availability on Stubhub so that prices for our seats are not being way undercut by the open market.
 

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In 2000 we had the highest paid coaching staff. The paid cpj bottom dollar compared to top teams in acc.

Saving our way to the bottom of acc.

Gt millionaires may be a myth.
When Johnson was hired he was one of the 15 highest paid coaches in the country. His salary was double Gailey's salary ($2.4 vs $1.2). However, Johnson also served as OC.
His salary only increased 25% or so over the next 11 years, but except for 2014, the team's performance was mediocre for the last 9 years of his tenure. They gave extensions, but apparently either didn't have the money for big raises or didn't believe big raises were justified.

Collins was hired with a similar coaching staff budget. So yes, we worked our way to the bottom. People want Veuve Cliquot at draft beer happy hour prices. NIL may make things even worse. People can want a head coaching change--which really isn't the problem--but this is not an attractive job.
 

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In 2000 we had the highest paid coaching staff. The paid cpj bottom dollar compared to top teams in acc.

Saving our way to the bottom of acc.

Gt millionaires may be a myth.

This is why I laugh when people say GT would struggle with an extra 20-40+ million in the B1G because everyone else would get the same money. We're struggling because of our massive debt load causing us to save in money in probably the most important area in college sports: Coaching salaries...which in turn causes us to make bad decisions. See the domino effect?

We played money ball with CPJ and did well because he was an offensive genius that could dictate the tempo of the game which also helped our defense. CGC was a bargain basement hire because we didn't have much money, and mega donors dictated with their wallets he should be GT's coach. With an extra 20-40 million (soon to be 75+ million) in the B1G, our coaching options are drastically different and dependence on mega donors (and the baggage that entails) is diminished.

GT has done well with a limited budget...up until CGC. So giving GT more money would make us worse? People who refer to Maryland or Nebraska as examples of having more money doesn't make you better are just giving out false equivalences. Bad decisions are bad decisions...and Maryland and Nebraska has a track record of making them which is why they're in the predicament they're in. Guess what? The extra money they're getting will help them erase their mistakes a LOT quicker than GT will be able to. THAT is why extra money is needed...not because it automatically makes GT a contender, but it give us much more flexibility to erase bad decisions, and it also helps us erase our debt load a LOT quicker. See that domino effect?
 

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When Johnson was hired he was one of the 15 highest paid coaches in the country. His salary was double Gailey's salary ($2.4 vs $1.2). However, Johnson also served as OC.
His salary only increased 25% or so over the next 11 years, but except for 2014, the team's performance was mediocre for the last 9 years of his tenure. They gave extensions, but apparently either didn't have the money for big raises or didn't believe big raises were justified.

Collins was hired with a similar coaching staff budget. So yes, we worked our way to the bottom. People want Veuve Cliquot at draft beer happy hour prices. NIL may make things even worse. People can want a head coaching change--which really isn't the problem--but this is not an attractive job.
If going 9-4 including 3-0 against the SEC with a win over UGA is your definition of mediocre, sign me up for mediocre.
 

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This is why I laugh when people say GT would struggle with an extra 20-40+ million in the B1G because everyone else would get the same money. We're struggling because of our massive debt load causing us to save in money in probably the most important area in college sports: Coaching salaries...which in turn causes us to make bad decisions. See the domino effect?

We played money ball with CPJ and did well because he was an offensive genius that could dictate the tempo of the game which also helped our defense. CGC was a bargain basement hire because we didn't have much money, and mega donors dictated with their wallets he should be GT's coach. With an extra 20-40 million (soon to be 75+ million) in the B1G, our coaching options are drastically different and dependence on mega donors (and the baggage that entails) is diminished.

GT has done well with a limited budget...up until CGC. So giving GT more money would make us worse? People who refer to Maryland or Nebraska as examples of having more money doesn't make you better are just giving out false equivalences. Bad decisions are bad decisions...and Maryland and Nebraska has a track record of making them which is why they're in the predicament they're in. Guess what? The extra money they're getting will help them erase their mistakes a LOT quicker than GT will be able to. THAT is why extra money is needed...not because it automatically makes GT a contender, but it give us much more flexibility to erase bad decisions, and it also helps us erase our debt load a LOT quicker. See that domino effect?
Maryland, Rutgers, Nebraska, Missouri, West Virginia, Louisville. Literally every school outside of oil money Texas A&M who left for greener pastures has had less success in their new conference than where they were. A lot of them have been worse or lateral in basketball too. All that happened was the rich got richer. Is there more parity in college football right now, or in 2000? What about 2008? The answer is not now. The level of competition in terms of revenue in the B1G would put GT at a further disadvantage than we have right now. Instead of being say, $30M behind Clemson and $20M behind Miami, we’d be $85M behind Ohio State, $75M behind Michigan, and $30M behind mid tier teams like Iowa.
 

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Maryland, Rutgers, Nebraska, Missouri, West Virginia, Louisville. Literally every school outside of oil money Texas A&M who left for greener pastures has had less success in their new conference than where they were. A lot of them have been worse or lateral in basketball too. All that happened was the rich got richer. Is there more parity in college football right now, or in 2000? What about 2008? The answer is not now. The level of competition in terms of revenue in the B1G would put GT at a further disadvantage than we have right now. Instead of being say, $30M behind Clemson and $20M behind Miami, we’d be $85M behind Ohio State, $75M behind Michigan, and $30M behind mid tier teams like Iowa.

Again, you're making false equivalences. EVERY one of those teams has extenuating circumstances and you're choose to ignore them because it doesn't prove your narrative. BTW, Louisville did have a spell they did well under Petrino at Louisville in the ACC...think of the Lamar Jackson years.

GT is never going to consistently beat the likes of UGA/'Bama/Ohio State because they've become monsters at the upper tier of this sport. What GT can do in the B1G is what we've always done before CGC...contiue to win 6-8 games a season, and have a special season every 3-5 years. We certainly are a far better program than 3 wins a year.

Again, more money doesn't automatically make us better, it just gives us more room and better options. What we do with it is up to GT, but being the B1G doesn't mean GT automatically will be worse program. If you think that way, GT should just go ahead and drop down to the FCS level because the future will be the haves and the have nots...and I can assure you that most GT fans want to be part of the "haves".
 

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Interesting matchups are key. Nothing to be done about in conference, but Ole Miss and UCF are awesome gets. Try for more SEC OOC games to increase interest, because the truth is outside of GT, I don’t watch much ACC outside of south of the Mason Dixon line. I watch SEC. Because that’s where I live and it dominates. I don’t care one lick about Louisville or basically anything at all north of Virginia. More Auburn, Tennessee, Ole Miss, MS State etc. Skip Bama, no need to add another loss, but add the ones we might compete. Make it interesting. I have become something of an Ole Miss fan only because my kids attended and I hate cowbells, so cater to the regionalist of OOC.

I can manage once a year cost at this tix and gas/travel cost to GT, but if the game is in Baton Rouge, Starkville, Oxford, I’m there. But I’m not going to see Bowling Green in 2023.

Do better. Home and Home v Auburn is a great idea.
 

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Interesting matchups are key. Nothing to be done about in conference, but Ole Miss and UCF are awesome gets. Try for more SEC OOC games to increase interest, because the truth is outside of GT, I don’t watch much ACC outside of south of the Mason Dixon line. I watch SEC. Because that’s where I live and it dominates. I don’t care one lick about Louisville or basically anything at all north of Virginia. More Auburn, Tennessee, Ole Miss, MS State etc. Skip Bama, no need to add another loss, but add the ones we might compete. Make it interesting. I have become something of an Ole Miss fan only because my kids attended and I hate cowbells, so cater to the regionalist of OOC.

I can manage once a year cost at this tix and gas/travel cost to GT, but if the game is in Baton Rouge, Starkville, Oxford, I’m there. But I’m not going to see Bowling Green in 2023.

Do better. Home and Home v Auburn is a great idea.
Miss those games. One of our most storied series/rivalries. We basically played them every year between 1892 and 1987.
 

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Again, you're making false equivalences. EVERY one of those teams has extenuating circumstances and you're choose to ignore them because it doesn't prove your narrative. BTW, Louisville did have a spell they did well under Petrino at Louisville in the ACC...think of the Lamar Jackson years.

GT is never going to consistently beat the likes of UGA/'Bama/Ohio State because they've become monsters at the upper tier of this sport. What GT can do in the B1G is what we've always done before CGC...contiue to win 6-8 games a season, and have a special season every 3-5 years. We certainly are a far better program than 3 wins a year.

Again, more money doesn't automatically make us better, it just gives us more room and better options. What we do with it is up to GT, but being the B1G doesn't mean GT automatically will be worse program. If you think that way, GT should just go ahead and drop down to the FCS level because the future will be the haves and the have nots...and I can assure you that most GT fans want to be part of the "haves".
Louisville has never won 10 games in their 8 years ACC. They did so 3 times in their last 8 years in the Big East/American. They do have 3 losing seasons though. They finished ranked 3 times in their last 8 years in The BE/AAC including as high as 6th, and only done so twice since joining the ACC. With the highest ranking of 21st.

How am I making false equivalences? I’m literally just pointing out the facts. ALL of those teams had extenuating circumstances, but somehow Tech doesn’t? If anything Tech has MORE extenuating circumstances than ANY of those teams. As I’ve said before, going to the B1G now does nothing but line the pockets of already rich coaches and administrators. It does nothing for the program or the fans.

We can compete in the ACC, and we can do it consistently. Paul’s favorite quote at the end was that GT finished 1st or 2nd in the Coastal for like 8 out of 9 years. Good luck doing that in a division with the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, and Penn State. Or even just Wisconsin and Iowa. Michigan is one of the most valuable, most profitable, most successful, and most storied programs of all time, and they’ve appeared in the B1G CG only once in the 11 years since it’s inception. And they’ve had FIVE 10 win seasons in that span. If they can’t do it, how does GT even stand a chance? Tech played in the ACCCG after finishing 6-6 in 2012. Absolutely no way that’s possible in the B1G.

Until it’s absolutely necessary to make a move, the ACC should be GT’s permanent home. We can compete here. Even the biggest money schools in the ACC can’t break away too far from the pack, because the money isn’t ludicrous like it is in the B1G and SEC. We absolutely are a better program than 3 wins, but going to the B1G at the wrong time can doom us to being a 3 win program forever. If you don’t think it’s possible, look at all the existing examples. You think Nebraska ever thought they’d be a 3 win program?

And since this thread is specifically about attendance:
Maryland is in the DC market, which holds tons of B1G grads, just like Atlanta. In their last year in the ACC Maryland averaged about 38k fans per game. Their first year in the B1G they averaged about 45k. So that’s a pretty big jump. They played Ohio State and Michigan State at home in front of sellout crowds.
In 2018 when Michigan State came to College Park they only sold 32k tickets. And when #9 Ohio State came they only sold 38k. That is the same as their ACC average with one of the top teams with one of the biggest draws in the country came to play. Last year #6 Michigan played at Maryland in front of 36k. That’s less than our season average last year.

The point is that getting beat up on year after year takes a toll on a fanbase. Look at Vandy, look at Kansas, look at Duke. Hell look at our home games against UGA. BDS is totally red. If we joined the B1G our attendance might surge initially. But after a few years of getting dominated it would probably fall off drastically, just like Maryland.
 
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