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<blockquote data-quote="lv20gt" data-source="post: 682842" data-attributes="member: 2299"><p>That wasn't really my intent for most of the post. Probably not a great place to put that one sentence paragraph though lol. I was really more just aiming for that point about being the top guard combo in the ACC. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that depends on who you classify as their primary guards. Pfluger is a guard who played 32 minutes and started.... But I think you pretty much nailed the player that made the difference. Goodwin outplayed either Usher or Bubba and ultimately I think that was the difference from a match up standpoint. I was focusing on our guard play as the reason we lost from the standpoint of I thought defense from Mike and Jose was the area that we could have realistically done better but didn't. It wasn't really that I thought they got outplayed but rather they didn't play as well as they could, or usually do, on the defensive end. As is I still think they pretty much played even with Hubb and Gibbs, with the major difference being Jose doing more facilitating others than creating for himself. We really needed one of either Usher or Bubba to step up, or even Cole who had a couple of good attempts and didn't capitalize (other than 2 FTs on what could have been an and 1 imo). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree they aren't the most explosive duo, but I'm not convinced that it is necessary for them to have that to be a top backcourt. Jose is leading all players in assists in conference play and is also chipping in nearly 13 points a game. Mike is top 20 in scoring and that include quite a few players who aren't back court players.</p><p></p><p>Which back courts would you put over Mike/Jose?</p><p></p><p>Duke and NCSU are the only ones I see as having a real argument. </p><p></p><p>Also, I think you are underselling Gibbs and Hubb. They are both top 5 in the ACC in scoring in conference games at about 18 a game and top 10 in assists. They are a damn good back court duo, and again I don't really think they outplayed Jose and Mike. I think all 4 played some bad defense but really good offense. </p><p></p><p>Anyways, there are some good young back courts in the ACC (Cuse and VT come to mind) and some teams will be adding some studs, but the ACC will also be losing quite a lot of good guards just to graduation. I think going into next year there will be a very strong argument that we'll have one of the best returning back courts along with Boeheim and Girard at Cuse and VT with Nolley Radgord and Alleyne. The big question is can we get more out of the 3 spot, and can we get more bench production, because that's where we are in desperate need.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lv20gt, post: 682842, member: 2299"] That wasn't really my intent for most of the post. Probably not a great place to put that one sentence paragraph though lol. I was really more just aiming for that point about being the top guard combo in the ACC. I think that depends on who you classify as their primary guards. Pfluger is a guard who played 32 minutes and started.... But I think you pretty much nailed the player that made the difference. Goodwin outplayed either Usher or Bubba and ultimately I think that was the difference from a match up standpoint. I was focusing on our guard play as the reason we lost from the standpoint of I thought defense from Mike and Jose was the area that we could have realistically done better but didn't. It wasn't really that I thought they got outplayed but rather they didn't play as well as they could, or usually do, on the defensive end. As is I still think they pretty much played even with Hubb and Gibbs, with the major difference being Jose doing more facilitating others than creating for himself. We really needed one of either Usher or Bubba to step up, or even Cole who had a couple of good attempts and didn't capitalize (other than 2 FTs on what could have been an and 1 imo). I agree they aren't the most explosive duo, but I'm not convinced that it is necessary for them to have that to be a top backcourt. Jose is leading all players in assists in conference play and is also chipping in nearly 13 points a game. Mike is top 20 in scoring and that include quite a few players who aren't back court players. Which back courts would you put over Mike/Jose? Duke and NCSU are the only ones I see as having a real argument. Also, I think you are underselling Gibbs and Hubb. They are both top 5 in the ACC in scoring in conference games at about 18 a game and top 10 in assists. They are a damn good back court duo, and again I don't really think they outplayed Jose and Mike. I think all 4 played some bad defense but really good offense. Anyways, there are some good young back courts in the ACC (Cuse and VT come to mind) and some teams will be adding some studs, but the ACC will also be losing quite a lot of good guards just to graduation. I think going into next year there will be a very strong argument that we'll have one of the best returning back courts along with Boeheim and Girard at Cuse and VT with Nolley Radgord and Alleyne. The big question is can we get more out of the 3 spot, and can we get more bench production, because that's where we are in desperate need. [/QUOTE]
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