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Fire Paul johnson for Taking Tobais Oliver out of the game
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<blockquote data-quote="4shotB" data-source="post: 458241" data-attributes="member: 844"><p>I think you are being deliberately obtuse. Some guys move the needle and change how the program is perceived in a positive way. We don't consider Duke to be a pushover anymore and in fact have lost 3 out of 4. Spurrier did at UF. Cremins at GT. Bowden at FSU. Beamer at VT. Heck, even Saban at Bama....they have historically been good but are winning NC's at an unprecedented rate. These are guys who have done something that many others before them could not accomplish. Because of this, no matter what my personal opinion is, I think it is obvious that he has accomplished great things there (on a relative scale). Do you count Duke as an automatic W this year?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="4shotB, post: 458241, member: 844"] I think you are being deliberately obtuse. Some guys move the needle and change how the program is perceived in a positive way. We don't consider Duke to be a pushover anymore and in fact have lost 3 out of 4. Spurrier did at UF. Cremins at GT. Bowden at FSU. Beamer at VT. Heck, even Saban at Bama....they have historically been good but are winning NC's at an unprecedented rate. These are guys who have done something that many others before them could not accomplish. Because of this, no matter what my personal opinion is, I think it is obvious that he has accomplished great things there (on a relative scale). Do you count Duke as an automatic W this year? [/QUOTE]
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