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<blockquote data-quote="85Escape" data-source="post: 925029" data-attributes="member: 3560"><p>Well, it's not like Yale was all that difficult from what my friend who went there for two years and then transferred to GT (for financial reasons) said. By his account, while the standards were very high at Yale to get in, and the workload <em>was </em>challenging, it was not as <em>demanding </em>as at GT. At the time (early 80's), Yale <em>wanted </em>to help you graduate if you were admitted. While Tech was vocal about using the crushing workload and high grading standards as a way to ensure that only the most dedicated graduated. </p><p></p><p>It was a <em>grind </em>intended to push out those who didn't <em>want </em>it enough. Does that make GT an elite school? I think it did in a way, but from the standpoint of confidence when hiring graduates. The person I hire from GT might not be any smarter than the one I hire from another good engineering school, but I can be darn sure that they know how to bust their *** and don't buckle when the chips are down. They also usually understand the theory behind what they know better than engineers from some other engineering schools (as Vespidae said.) But they too often lack the non-engineering skills related to their subject (mechanical engineers who have never used a wrench...)</p><p></p><p>That's changed now, by all accounts. When student admission scores and graduation rates began to be the key measures of the success of a school, rather than the capabilities and accomplishments of the graduates, the whole basis for how to 'win' in academia has changed. This is a reflection the decline of the American culture of excellence, which is a whole different conversation for another forum.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="85Escape, post: 925029, member: 3560"] Well, it's not like Yale was all that difficult from what my friend who went there for two years and then transferred to GT (for financial reasons) said. By his account, while the standards were very high at Yale to get in, and the workload [I]was [/I]challenging, it was not as [I]demanding [/I]as at GT. At the time (early 80's), Yale [I]wanted [/I]to help you graduate if you were admitted. While Tech was vocal about using the crushing workload and high grading standards as a way to ensure that only the most dedicated graduated. It was a [I]grind [/I]intended to push out those who didn't [I]want [/I]it enough. Does that make GT an elite school? I think it did in a way, but from the standpoint of confidence when hiring graduates. The person I hire from GT might not be any smarter than the one I hire from another good engineering school, but I can be darn sure that they know how to bust their *** and don't buckle when the chips are down. They also usually understand the theory behind what they know better than engineers from some other engineering schools (as Vespidae said.) But they too often lack the non-engineering skills related to their subject (mechanical engineers who have never used a wrench...) That's changed now, by all accounts. When student admission scores and graduation rates began to be the key measures of the success of a school, rather than the capabilities and accomplishments of the graduates, the whole basis for how to 'win' in academia has changed. This is a reflection the decline of the American culture of excellence, which is a whole different conversation for another forum. [/QUOTE]
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