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<blockquote data-quote="33jacket" data-source="post: 162104" data-attributes="member: 628"><p>well. The thing is Cord Howard was truly about 300...in 2008 as proven by NFL weights. Gardner was truly at 300 also shown by NFL measurements. In 2008 our center, was at 300. The issue in 2008 was 1 of our tackles. One was a converted TE/DE. The other gaurd was not that good. In 2008 I still don't view size as any issue. I view player fit to the system, newness of a system, bad fit at tackle, and 3 of the 5 OL starters...lets face it...were not that good. </p><p></p><p>In 2010, 2011, 2012, I do view size, and the line getting a bit smaller as one of the issues. In fact, if you recall...many of us on the boards in 2011 and 2012 were complaining that the OL was worse then than it was in 08 and 09. We all thought that Paul now has his guys...the OL will be fine...and it was not. We perceived that it took a step back from 2008 and 2009. So I think we need to be careful here with revisionist history.</p><p></p><p>That 2009 team didn't do great vs Iowa. But pushed around some damn, and I mean DAMN good DL's; in Clemson twice, VT, FSU. For me I have no issues with the 09 OL. 2008 just was new and some not great fits.</p><p></p><p>Anyway we can debate this. But for me the lines today are alot bigger than they EVER have been since paul has been here, and more talented for his system too. Call it what you want, timing, recruiting, a little of both..but thats my thought.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="33jacket, post: 162104, member: 628"] well. The thing is Cord Howard was truly about 300...in 2008 as proven by NFL weights. Gardner was truly at 300 also shown by NFL measurements. In 2008 our center, was at 300. The issue in 2008 was 1 of our tackles. One was a converted TE/DE. The other gaurd was not that good. In 2008 I still don't view size as any issue. I view player fit to the system, newness of a system, bad fit at tackle, and 3 of the 5 OL starters...lets face it...were not that good. In 2010, 2011, 2012, I do view size, and the line getting a bit smaller as one of the issues. In fact, if you recall...many of us on the boards in 2011 and 2012 were complaining that the OL was worse then than it was in 08 and 09. We all thought that Paul now has his guys...the OL will be fine...and it was not. We perceived that it took a step back from 2008 and 2009. So I think we need to be careful here with revisionist history. That 2009 team didn't do great vs Iowa. But pushed around some damn, and I mean DAMN good DL's; in Clemson twice, VT, FSU. For me I have no issues with the 09 OL. 2008 just was new and some not great fits. Anyway we can debate this. But for me the lines today are alot bigger than they EVER have been since paul has been here, and more talented for his system too. Call it what you want, timing, recruiting, a little of both..but thats my thought. [/QUOTE]
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