Clinton & Trump are criminals and should be in jail. /sarcasm

[Whiskey_Clear]

Hillary would have been the most experienced President going in we ever would have had. Too bad the Russians chose our president for us. We are going to be paying a long time.

Anyone who find fault with this statement is, my opinion, as unhinged as Trump.

Sits back and waits for the crazies to involuntarily spasm.

Since you are baiting, or trolling, I will bight. Your premise is typical of current socialist thought. He who disagrees is "unhinged/evil/racist".

Half of the country that voted against Hill must be unhinged in your mind.

And how was she so experienced? As a 1st lady? As an ineffective Senator? As the most ineffective and dishonest Secretary of State? That's the kind of experience I'm glad we were able to avoid.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

O.K., in order here are the issues you have raised.

With a Republican House and Senate, and with all her lying under oath about classified stuff, the email server, and the corruption with the Clinton Foundation, she wouldn't have lasted 6 months.

With all the investigations (how many was it?) and all the money spent, not one chargeable offense was found. There was no there there. However, you are right, the crazies who hate Clinton beyond all reason would have voted for impreachment.

The Russians don't care who is President, they just want to sow the seeds of mistrust, angst, and uncertainty around the country.

Actually there is hard evidence out now that says they cared very much who won. Our intelligence agencies picked up chatter that indicates they were working for the last few years to make him their stooge. They succeeded in my opinion.

Here we sit 18 months into when the investigations begun, and nobody has still found anything. There is nothing.

I would not bet on that. This is a slow meticulous investigation. I know that there are people who have worked for 30 years to find something, anything, to take the Clintons to court with but this is not like that. I am predicting right now that they not only have the goods on Trump, they are going to produce chargeable offenses.

 

[AE 87]

1) What's the difference between "gross negligence" which is the legal standard and "extremely careless" which is what the FBI found her guilty of?

2) Link? And even if true it's not evidence of Trump team cooperation.

3) What evidence have you seen?

 

[Northeast Stinger]

Since you are baiting, or trolling, I will bight. Your premise is typical of current socialist thought. He who disagrees is "unhinged/evil/racist".

Half of the country that voted against Hill must be unhinged in your mind.

And how was she so experienced? As a 1st lady? As an ineffective Senator? As the most ineffective and dishonest Secretary of State? That's the kind of experience I'm glad we were able to avoid.

No. I am not criticizing those who voted for Trump. I think Trump's behavior and comments speak for themselves. He is obsessed with Obama, thinks Obama did not go to college, was not from this country, wants to go completely against everything Obama did even if he agreed with it before the election, says his crowds are bigger, and on and on. He stirs the racial pot over and over again even though any sane person would know that with our country's history this is playing with dynamite. He says he wants new infrastructure, improved health care for all, and tax reform, but instead of pushing these he tweets about reality TV stars, Obama, Hillary, McConnell, the news media and, against all intelligence reports, that Russia did not interfere in our elections, and he does this over and over again. Rather than mention the sailors who tragically died in the speech he gave the next day, he spent 20 minutes talking about himself and how great he is. Yeah, he is unhinged.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

(1) You answered your own question.
(2) Source is TV reporting which has been very extensive on this. Not on Fox, unfortunately.
(3) See 2 above.

I think anyone thinking Trump is going to be exonerated on this is going to have a rude awakening. He is determined to talk about "Fake News" because he is trying to inoculate himself to the reports that are going to come out in the next few months. Some will buy his defense. Most will not.

 

[AE 87]

(1) You answered your own question.
(2) Source is TV reporting which has been very extensive on this. Not on Fox, unfortunately.
(3) See 2 above.

I think anyone thinking Trump is going to be exonerated on this is going to have a rude awakening. He is determined to talk about "Fake News" because he is trying to inoculate himself to the reports that are going to come out in the next few months. Some will buy his defense. Most will not.

1) Right. No difference.
2&3) You don't know of any but you've got faith.

 

[AE 87]

NSFW (lang)

 

[Deleted member 2897]

False. Several chargeable offenses were found. And you KNOW even if it were a weak case, Republicans would have still impeached her.

 

[Whiskey_Clear]

O.K., in order here are the issues you have raised.
With all the investigations (how many was it?) and all the money spent, not one chargeable offense was found. There was no there there. However, you are right, the crazies who hate Clinton beyond all reason would have voted for impreachment.
Actually there is hard evidence out now that says they cared very much who won. Our intelligence agencies picked up chatter that indicates they were working for the last few years to make him their stooge. They succeeded in my opinion.
I would not bet on that. This is a slow meticulous investigation. I know that there are people who have worked for 30 years to find something, anything, to take the Clintons to court with but this is not like that. I am predicting right now that they not only have the goods on Trump, they are going to produce chargeable offenses.

I predict you will be very disappointed. If Trump has any hidden skeletons left they are pro ably in his tax returns. His tax lawyers are to good to find anything criminal there most likely but there might be some politically damaging things there.

 

[Whiskey_Clear]

No. I am not criticizing those who voted for Obama . I think Obama's behavior and comments speak for themselves. He is obsessed with Bush, thinks Bush did not serve in the military, joined a racist group at Yale, wants to go completely against everything Bush did and blame everything he has failed at 8 years into his presidency on Bush. He stirs the racial pot over and over again even though any sane person would know that with our country's history this is playing with dynamite. He says he wants new infrastructure, universal health care for all but instead of pushing these he cries about Bush, Hannity, Fox News and a Republican Congress. He draws fake lines in the sand in Syria, surrenders victories in Iraq to score political points. Free's known murdering AlQaida monsters from Quantanamo rather than trie them in military tribunals. Enables Iran and Korea to develop nukes and ICBMs even though they have promised to destroy us. Claims they are far away from developing nukes despite national intelligence that states otherwise.
Claimed the Russians can't hack our elections and he does this over and over again. Rather than identify radical Islamist terrorists for what they are he would rather castigate our police who risk their lives to protect us from same. He spent 20 minutes talking about himself and how great he is. Yeah, he is unhinged.

See, you can change a couple names here, make a couple of tweaks there, and sound just like an Obama hater. That was fun, thx.

 

[awbuzz]

See, you can change a couple names here, make a couple of tweaks there, and sound just like an Obama hater. That was fun, thx.

That is well done!

 

[Northeast Stinger]

See, you can change a couple names here, make a couple of tweaks there, and sound just like an Obama hater. That was fun, thx.

Except that Obama did not do what Trump is doing. Kind of a big difference, don't you think.

 

[Northeast Stinger]

Anyone who thinks Russia is a nothing burger is deluded. Too much evidence out already for that to be true. Oh, that's right, I forgot. The CIA, the NSA, the FBI and eight other agencies are all lying. Of course, how silly of me.

 

[MWBATL]

Hillary would have been the most experienced President going in we ever would have had.

And by far the most corrupt. Anyone who finds fault with this is as unhinged as those with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Sits back and waits for the crazies to involuntarily spasm.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

Anyone who thinks Russia is a nothing burger is deluded. Too much evidence out already for that to be true. Oh, that's right, I forgot. The CIA, the NSA, the FBI and eight other agencies are all lying. Of course, how silly of me.

"Too much evidence." I'm all ears. If you have anything, I'd be interested in hearing.

In terms of the CIA, etc., they aren't lying. They haven't any evidence to lie about. What gets me about them is the constant leaking of phone calls and private conversations that Trump and folks have. The tapping of lines and surveillance on his campaign team and advisors. I mean, this is just ridiculous silent coup kind of stuff. I don't think they can ever be trusted again.

 

[MWBATL]

Let me remember for a second.....

• which political party destroyed their candidate's cell phone physically with a hammer so it could not be forensically investigated? Oh, the Democrats
• which political party wiped their candidate's in-home server to avoid having it forensically investigated? Oh, the Democrats
• which political party had to fire their National Chairwoman for collusion? Oh, the Democrats
• which political party actually destroyed their own National Committee servers so they could not be forensically investigated? Oh, the Democrats
• but it is Trump that is guilty of stuff because "where's there's smoke, there's fire"???

Huh????????

Trump Derangement Syndrome RULES! It must be nice to live in the echo chamber.....

 

[Northeast Stinger]

And by far the most corrupt.

LOL. Robert Mercer, who actually believes Clinton has personally killed over 30 people, has enough money to support every cockeyed conspiracy theory the alt right has come up with. Sad thing is many otherwise intelligent people actually believe this crap.

 

[Deleted member 2897]

Let me remember for a second.....

• which political party destroyed their candidate's cell phone physically with a hammer so it could not be forensically investigated? Oh, the Democrats
• which political party wiped their candidate's in-home server to avoid having it forensically investigated? Oh, the Democrats
• which political party had to fire their National Chairwoman for collusion? Oh, the Democrats
• which political party actually destroyed their own National Committee servers so they could not be forensically investigated? Oh, the Democrats
• but it is Trump that is guilty of stuff because "where's there's smoke, there's fire"???

Huh????????

Trump Derangement Syndrome RULES! It must be nice to live in the echo chamber.....

There are 2 elections where we have definitive proof of collusion and coordination to manipulate the results:
1) The Democrat primary, to screw and bury Bernie Sanders.
2) The attempted ousting of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by Obama.

 

[AE 87]

@Northeast Stinger , I would like an honest answer to a simple question. You obviously don't have to answer it, but it would help me understand you position.

Consider the following scenario: The FBI of a Republican administration informs the RNC that their server may have been hacked by the Russians and requests access to do a forensic investigation. Rather than giving the FBI investigators access to the server, they hire a private firm funded by the Koch brothers to investigate the matter, and this firm provides the primary evidence in support of Russians successfully obtaining data which was released via Wikileaks. The RNC never grants the FBI access to the server, and the Republican justice department never issues a subpoena.

Question: Would you trust that everything had been handled appropriately enough?

 

[Whiskey_Clear]

Let me remember for a second.....

• which political party destroyed their candidate's cell phone physically with a hammer so it could not be forensically investigated? Oh, the Democrats
• which political party wiped their candidate's in-home server to avoid having it forensically investigated? Oh, the Democrats
• which political party had to fire their National Chairwoman for collusion? Oh, the Democrats
• which political party actually destroyed their own National Committee servers so they could not be forensically investigated? Oh, the Democrats
• but it is Trump that is guilty of stuff because "where's there's smoke, there's fire"???

Huh????????

Trump Derangement Syndrome RULES! It must be nice to live in the echo chamber.....

This

There are 2 elections where we have definitive proof of collusion and coordination to manipulate the results:
1) The Democrat primary, to screw and bury Bernie Sanders.
2) The attempted ousting of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by Obama.

And this.

But Dem supporters turn a blind eye to dem corruption. Utterly and completely now. notice that none who support her excuse her actions other than to say, "no charges were brought thus no scandal occurred." In other words, if a corrupt government allows it there is no harm done. Mind boggling.

@Northeast Stinger
Please share the evidence you have regarding Trump collusion with Russians. Please share the evidence you have of a coverup. But first and foremost...please explain how Hillary's and her inner circle's actions were neither criminal nor harmful.