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<blockquote data-quote="Martin_Van_Nostrand" data-source="post: 462715" data-attributes="member: 4132"><p>You keep putting words in my mouth. I don't think how we do against Clemson one way or the other has anything to do with the perception of our program. THAT is my point. Someone said "we've forgotten that our record is such and such against Clemson over the years" and I replied that it was irrelevant to where the programs are now, and I gave specific reasons (losing to the teams we've lost to, etc) why that is. </p><p></p><p>Again, I don't care what we did against any of those teams back in 08, 09, 10. I care about the fact that our program is at a very specific place right now and trending down over the past 4 years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Martin_Van_Nostrand, post: 462715, member: 4132"] You keep putting words in my mouth. I don't think how we do against Clemson one way or the other has anything to do with the perception of our program. THAT is my point. Someone said "we've forgotten that our record is such and such against Clemson over the years" and I replied that it was irrelevant to where the programs are now, and I gave specific reasons (losing to the teams we've lost to, etc) why that is. Again, I don't care what we did against any of those teams back in 08, 09, 10. I care about the fact that our program is at a very specific place right now and trending down over the past 4 years. [/QUOTE]
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