CDS Contract Details

[AUFC]

Is actually raises a good point. Seems like keeping coaches on extended contracts might be silly these days. The roster argument is gone given the kids can just bail whenever - and many likely will when the coach leaves. Why not keep coaches on two year contracts and just extend whenever you want to keep them. The buyouts never really deter other programs from poaching anyways. Seems like it’s more likely that coaches get fired than leave for greener pastures.

I think the big showstopper is probably that elite coaches still have all the leverage. If you put a 2 year deal in front of a coach you were courting, they would ball it up and throw it in the trash until you gave them the standard 6ish year deal. You might get some hungry coach who just wants a shot at power conference basketball to take the deal, but they won't be proven or in demand.

 

[Peacone36]

I think the big showstopper is probably that elite coaches still have all the leverage. If you put a 2 year deal in front of a coach you were courting, they would ball it up and throw it in the trash until you gave them the standard 6ish year deal. You might get some hungry coach who just wants a shot at power conference basketball to take the deal, but they won't be proven or in demand.

I think (I think) he’s talking about the “oh we’re so in love, you got the #7 seed in the conference tournament, here’s eleventy billion dollars for 17 years and complete control of the bursar’s office” type extensions coaches receive after year two. Right before the coach goes into the ****ter and it takes a decade for the program to recover.

 

[orientalnc]

I think (I think) he’s talking about the “oh we’re so in love, you got the #7 seed in the conference tournament, here’s eleventy billion dollars for 17 years and complete control of the bursar’s office” type extensions coaches receive after year two. Right before the coach goes into the ****ter and it takes a decade for the program to recover.

OK, but that would NEVER happen at GT. At least can take comfort in that.

 

[bke1984]

I think the big showstopper is probably that elite coaches still have all the leverage. If you put a 2 year deal in front of a coach you were courting, they would ball it up and throw it in the trash until you gave them the standard 6ish year deal. You might get some hungry coach who just wants a shot at power conference basketball to take the deal, but they won't be proven or in demand.

Of course. But how many of those are there? Somewhere along the line everyone started getting 5 year contracts that basically auto renew at 3 years. The rationale was that you need continuity to recruit, but the rules have changed to where that argument simply doesn’t make sense anymore. So what other benefit does the school get?

 

[AUFC]

Of course. But how many of those are there? Somewhere along the line everyone started getting 5 year contracts that basically auto renew at 3 years. The rationale was that you need continuity to recruit, but the rules have changed to where that argument simply doesn’t make sense anymore. So what other benefit does the school get?

Maybe Batt plans to offer a 2 year deal to CDS' successor if that is indeed his fate, I'm not opposed to it but it's more of a believe-it-when-I-see-it-type thing.

I don't really love the optics of it either in an era where we are all trying to be the Belle of the Ball for the SEC and B1G. Flexing money was probably one of the bigger parts of UNC's Bill Belichick hire.

 

[Richard7125]

Of course. But how many of those are there? Somewhere along the line everyone started getting 5 year contracts that basically auto renew at 3 years. The rationale was that you need continuity to recruit, but the rules have changed to where that argument simply doesn’t make sense anymore. So what other benefit does the school get?

they get the coach to agree to a contract

 

[Richard7125]

y

Maybe Batt plans to offer a 2 year deal to CDS' successor if that is indeed his fate, I'm not opposed to it but it's more of a believe-it-when-I-see-it-type thing.

I don't really love the optics of it either in an era where we are all trying to be the Belle of the Ball for the SEC and B1G. Flexing money was probably one of the bigger parts of UNC's Bill Belichick hire.

Y'all are living in a fantasy land if you think a really good coach is going to take a 2 year deal. The only way that happens is if you give them a ridiculously high annual payment - in the order of 3x current annual salaries.

 

[Peacone36]

y

Y'all are living in a fantasy land if you think a really good coach is going to take a 2 year deal. The only way that happens is if you give them a ridiculously high annual payment - in the order of 3x current annual salaries.

He said extensions.

 

[MacDaddy2]

As nonsensical as folks thinking a coach firing is on the horizon.

Depends on your definition of the "horizon". My prediction is that the CDS experiment will end in March 2026.

 

[Peacone36]

Depends on your definition of the "horizon". My prediction is that the CDS experiment will end in March 2026.

At the earliest he'd go after the 26'-27 season. Even if he does, what are we gonna do? Offer the 17th highest salary in the ACC to poach a guy his current employer wants to be rid of or an NBA assistant with a losing coaching record at the college level? **** It, CDS can recruit, might as well give him an extension and quit pretending like we are trying to improve this program.

Don't forget to be a good fan

 

[kg01]

I only humbly request y'all confine the negativity to one thread instead of letting the toxicity permeate the whole board like y'all did with the last few coaches.

Nobody's happy rn but it's not worth it to spill the mess all over the place.

 

[stinger78]