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<blockquote data-quote="ClydeBrick" data-source="post: 340297" data-attributes="member: 1329"><p>I posted this on TOS related to this issue:</p><p></p><p><em>A determined person will not be deterred by wanding - or metal detectors. Doing this type of screening only allows for the facility manager to limit/avoid liability in the event of an attack. It also helps to make the sheeple feel more "secure".</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Looking forward to the crush of people at Gate 4 being even worse since attaching wrist-bands to bags was bad enough. </em>- It took from 12:05PM to the coin toss to get from 3rd Street in front of Gate 4 to my seats in 111.</p><p><em></em></p><p><em>You want security at a public event? Maintain 24/7/52 vigilance at the facility, inspect every item that enters the facility -no matter how small, disallow any carry-in items and only allow naked people to attend.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Even then you have to hope that one of them did not swallow a bomb.</em></p><p></p><p>Wanding can be a very effective way to detect the presence of metallic objects on a person, but it takes training and competence - and lots of time. When dealing with a large volume of inspections, passing through a walk-through metal detector and only wanding those who cannot pass through without setting it off will increase the number of people per hour your can process.</p><p></p><p>The CSC Event staff was not well trained, and did not seem to know what to do in the event someone set the detectors off. Not to mention what would have happened if they did find a gun? There were too many people around and no cops on hand to step in. They ran the wand too fast over the people that were in front of me, had a hiccup on the person directly in front of me and let me pass unchecked.</p><p></p><p>Making all this even more worthless is the fact that all incoming bags are not inspected in a baggage scanner. Simply looking at a bag and attaching a wrist band will not deter anyone who wants to bring in a weapon - even if the bag is "clear".</p><p></p><p>I am all for something that will reduce the risk of an attack, however there needs to be an effective return on my personal investment of my time, and the increase in my cost of attending the event (I am sure CSC did not provide wands for free). The security requirements and costs that would actually reduce the possibility of an attack at Grant Field would probably render the event beyond what most fans would pay or endure. Life has its risks, going to a large (or small) public event can be dangerous. I have chosen to accept the risk and attend the game. What I don't want is to become a forced participant in a farce where we pretend we are doing something that helps us all be "secure". </p><p></p><p>Against a determined actor, locking your door at night is just as ineffective as airport-level security. As it has been said, a lock only keeps an honest man honest.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>What happened Saturday was a joke.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ClydeBrick, post: 340297, member: 1329"] I posted this on TOS related to this issue: [I]A determined person will not be deterred by wanding - or metal detectors. Doing this type of screening only allows for the facility manager to limit/avoid liability in the event of an attack. It also helps to make the sheeple feel more "secure". Looking forward to the crush of people at Gate 4 being even worse since attaching wrist-bands to bags was bad enough. [/I]- It took from 12:05PM to the coin toss to get from 3rd Street in front of Gate 4 to my seats in 111. [I] You want security at a public event? Maintain 24/7/52 vigilance at the facility, inspect every item that enters the facility -no matter how small, disallow any carry-in items and only allow naked people to attend. Even then you have to hope that one of them did not swallow a bomb.[/I] Wanding can be a very effective way to detect the presence of metallic objects on a person, but it takes training and competence - and lots of time. When dealing with a large volume of inspections, passing through a walk-through metal detector and only wanding those who cannot pass through without setting it off will increase the number of people per hour your can process. The CSC Event staff was not well trained, and did not seem to know what to do in the event someone set the detectors off. Not to mention what would have happened if they did find a gun? There were too many people around and no cops on hand to step in. They ran the wand too fast over the people that were in front of me, had a hiccup on the person directly in front of me and let me pass unchecked. Making all this even more worthless is the fact that all incoming bags are not inspected in a baggage scanner. Simply looking at a bag and attaching a wrist band will not deter anyone who wants to bring in a weapon - even if the bag is "clear". I am all for something that will reduce the risk of an attack, however there needs to be an effective return on my personal investment of my time, and the increase in my cost of attending the event (I am sure CSC did not provide wands for free). The security requirements and costs that would actually reduce the possibility of an attack at Grant Field would probably render the event beyond what most fans would pay or endure. Life has its risks, going to a large (or small) public event can be dangerous. I have chosen to accept the risk and attend the game. What I don't want is to become a forced participant in a farce where we pretend we are doing something that helps us all be "secure". Against a determined actor, locking your door at night is just as ineffective as airport-level security. As it has been said, a lock only keeps an honest man honest. What happened Saturday was a joke. [/QUOTE]
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