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Elijah Thomas > John Mooney
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I'll have my teams in the morning.
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I mean, yours is a completely valid point of view, if the goal is to be wrong.
Kidding... I disagree, but it's not a big deal either way. I'm not sure Mooney was much better than Thomas offensively. Mooney averaged .9 more ppg while shooting 47% from the field vs. Thomas' 62%. Then, defensively Thomas averaged 2+ blocks per game. Thomas' achilles heel was foul trouble.
Mooney doesn’t have that rim protecting ability but I like the pick and pop ability, FT shooting and the ability to stay on the floor. 2.8 fouls per 40 as opposed to 5.0.
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Here are my All-ACC teams - i'll have a more in-depth post on GT later as well as a post on experience by team. My teams are based on my per game formula and includes performance in ACC games only. Just for some reference, historically All-ACC has been around 20 and up. Top player is usually around 30 or a little higher.
Fr Zion Williamson - Duke 34.46 (in you account take out the 1 min and game vs UNC it would be 37.33) - PoY, RoY, 1st Team
Fr RJ Barrett - Duke 30.69 - 1st Team, All-Rookie
Sr(5) Marquise Reed- Clemson 25.83, 1st Team, Top Sr
Jr Kenny Blackshear Jr - VT 25.44, 1st Team, Top Jr
Sr(5) Cam Johnson - UNC 24.97, 1st Team
Fr Colby White - UNC 24.69, 2nd Team, All-Rookie
Jr Ky Bowman - BC 24.03, 2nd Team
Jr Ty Jerome - UVA 23.50, 2nd Team
So Nickell Alexander-Walker - VT 23.42, 2nd Team, Top So
Fr Xavier Johnson - Pitt 23.11, 2nd Team, All-Rookie
Sr Jerome Robinson - VT 22.22, 3rd team (only played 9 games due to injury)
Jr Tyus Battle - Syracuse 22.14, 3rd Team
Gr Chris Cunningham - L'ville 21.75, 3rd Team
Jr John Mooney, ND 21.47, 3rd Team
So(R) De'Andre Hunter, UVA 21.28, 3rd Team
Sr(5) Luke Maye, UNC 21.11, Hon Mention
So Chris Lykes, Miami 20.53, Hon Mention
So Jose Alvarado, GT 20.03, Hon Mention
So Mfiondu Kabengele, FSU 19.86, Hon Mention
Sr(5) Elijah Thomas, Clemson 19.17, Hon Mention
Jr Brandon Childress, WF 19.11, Hon Mention (incl since Robinson only played 9 games)
All-Rookie
Williamson
Barrett
White
Johnson
Tre Jones - Duke 18.59 (#22)
Top Ranked Player by Team
BC - Jr Ky Bowman - #7
Clemson - Sr Marquis Reed - #3
Duke - Fr Zion Williamson - #1
FSU - So Mfiondu Kabengele - #19
GT - So Jose Alvarado #18
L'ville - Gr Chris Cunningham #13
Miami - So Chris Likes #17
UNC - Sr Cam Johnson #5
NCST - So Markell Johnson #26 - 18.13
ND - Jr John Mooney #14
Pitt - Fr Xavier Johnson #10
Syr - Jr Tyus Battle #12
UVA - Jr Ty Jerome - #8
VT - Jr. Kerry Bleakshear Jr - #4
Wake - Jr Brandon Childress - #21
Fr Zion Williamson - Duke 34.46 (in you account take out the 1 min and game vs UNC it would be 37.33) - PoY, RoY, 1st Team
Fr RJ Barrett - Duke 30.69 - 1st Team, All-Rookie
Sr(5) Marquise Reed- Clemson 25.83, 1st Team, Top Sr
Jr Kenny Blackshear Jr - VT 25.44, 1st Team, Top Jr
Sr(5) Cam Johnson - UNC 24.97, 1st Team
Fr Colby White - UNC 24.69, 2nd Team, All-Rookie
Jr Ky Bowman - BC 24.03, 2nd Team
Jr Ty Jerome - UVA 23.50, 2nd Team
So Nickell Alexander-Walker - VT 23.42, 2nd Team, Top So
Fr Xavier Johnson - Pitt 23.11, 2nd Team, All-Rookie
Sr Jerome Robinson - VT 22.22, 3rd team (only played 9 games due to injury)
Jr Tyus Battle - Syracuse 22.14, 3rd Team
Gr Chris Cunningham - L'ville 21.75, 3rd Team
Jr John Mooney, ND 21.47, 3rd Team
So(R) De'Andre Hunter, UVA 21.28, 3rd Team
Sr(5) Luke Maye, UNC 21.11, Hon Mention
So Chris Lykes, Miami 20.53, Hon Mention
So Jose Alvarado, GT 20.03, Hon Mention
So Mfiondu Kabengele, FSU 19.86, Hon Mention
Sr(5) Elijah Thomas, Clemson 19.17, Hon Mention
Jr Brandon Childress, WF 19.11, Hon Mention (incl since Robinson only played 9 games)
All-Rookie
Williamson
Barrett
White
Johnson
Tre Jones - Duke 18.59 (#22)
Top Ranked Player by Team
BC - Jr Ky Bowman - #7
Clemson - Sr Marquis Reed - #3
Duke - Fr Zion Williamson - #1
FSU - So Mfiondu Kabengele - #19
GT - So Jose Alvarado #18
L'ville - Gr Chris Cunningham #13
Miami - So Chris Likes #17
UNC - Sr Cam Johnson #5
NCST - So Markell Johnson #26 - 18.13
ND - Jr John Mooney #14
Pitt - Fr Xavier Johnson #10
Syr - Jr Tyus Battle #12
UVA - Jr Ty Jerome - #8
VT - Jr. Kerry Bleakshear Jr - #4
Wake - Jr Brandon Childress - #21
Mine
ACC First Team
ACC First Team
- Zion Williamson-Duke
- RJ Barrett-Duke
- De’Andre Hunter-UVA
- Coby White-UNC
- Kerry Blackshear Jr-VPI
- John Mooney-Notre Dame
- Jordan Nwora-Louisville
- Kyle Guy-UVA
- Mfiondu Kabengele-Florida State
- Cam Johnson-UNC
- Ty Jerome-UVA
- Ky Bowman-Boston College
- Tre’ Jones-Duke
- Luke Maye-UNC
- Marcquise Reed-Clemson
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FWIW, on the Thomas-Mooney discussion.
in my metrics Thomas has better per min and per possession metrics, but Mooney has better per game metrics. This is largely due to Mooney fouling a lot less and being able to keep himself on the floor more (Thomas fouls at a rate 60% faster than Mooney).
Thomas gives you more protection around the rim and is a better scorer close in. Mooney is a better scorer at the FT line and out, Mooney also rebounds at a better rate and has a better Ast/TO ratio.
Sort of depends what you need out of your big. Overall imo Mooney had a slightly better year.
in my metrics Thomas has better per min and per possession metrics, but Mooney has better per game metrics. This is largely due to Mooney fouling a lot less and being able to keep himself on the floor more (Thomas fouls at a rate 60% faster than Mooney).
Thomas gives you more protection around the rim and is a better scorer close in. Mooney is a better scorer at the FT line and out, Mooney also rebounds at a better rate and has a better Ast/TO ratio.
Sort of depends what you need out of your big. Overall imo Mooney had a slightly better year.