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<blockquote data-quote="RamblinRed" data-source="post: 698386" data-attributes="member: 1776"><p>When you are comparing teams on the bubble, don't spend too much time looking at their NET or KenPom rankings. Go look at the NCAA Team Sheets for each team. it gives you a much better sense of what the committe is looking at and talking about.</p><p>First off, if a team does not have a record at least 3 games over .500 they have almost 0 chance of getting an at-large bid. Georgia in 2002 is the only team to ever get an at large bid at 2 games over .500 and that team played a ridiculous schedule in which they played 27 of their 30 games against teams that would be considered Quadrant 1 and 2 teams under the net system.</p><p></p><p>Also look at how many road wins a team has. no team with fewer than 3 road/neutral wins has ever gotten a bid. Rutgers is going to test that this year as they are unbelievably good at home, but 1-9 on the road.</p><p></p><p>Also look at how many wins teams have over definite and possible (bubble) tourney teams.</p><p></p><p>The committee doesn't care about conference records. There are not even provided with the conference records of the teams. Since almost no conferences play round robin anymore conference records are largely not considered important, what's important is who you played. Think in the ACC if one school has to play Duke, L'ville, FSU and UVA twice each and other school plays them only once. The first team may have a worse conference record but be the better team.</p><p></p><p>NCST is the only bubble team in the ACC. Clemson has the quadrant 1 wins, but too many losses to lesser teams to be considered. Their loss to VT last night means they have to win the auto-bid. They are only 15-14 overall. Both Syracuse and Notre Dame are lacking in wins over any Tournament teams. ND also had a really weak OOC SOS so that is another black mark. Both would have to win the Conference Tourney.</p><p>NCST has wins against both Duke and UVA (on the road). they also have a win over Wisconsin. But that is balanced with a fair bit of bad losses. none moreso than the 2 losses to UNC. They are arguably the most bubbly team in the country. They are last one in, first one out in most brackets. They certainly cannot afford to lose to Wake this weekend at home. </p><p></p><p>As Cuse mentioned it is in GT's interest to have as many ACC teams qualify as possible. The more that qualify, the more money the conference potentially stands to make from the Tourney. The ACC has absolutely cleaned up in credits the last couple of years in the Tourney. This year is likely to be a down year.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RamblinRed, post: 698386, member: 1776"] When you are comparing teams on the bubble, don't spend too much time looking at their NET or KenPom rankings. Go look at the NCAA Team Sheets for each team. it gives you a much better sense of what the committe is looking at and talking about. First off, if a team does not have a record at least 3 games over .500 they have almost 0 chance of getting an at-large bid. Georgia in 2002 is the only team to ever get an at large bid at 2 games over .500 and that team played a ridiculous schedule in which they played 27 of their 30 games against teams that would be considered Quadrant 1 and 2 teams under the net system. Also look at how many road wins a team has. no team with fewer than 3 road/neutral wins has ever gotten a bid. Rutgers is going to test that this year as they are unbelievably good at home, but 1-9 on the road. Also look at how many wins teams have over definite and possible (bubble) tourney teams. The committee doesn't care about conference records. There are not even provided with the conference records of the teams. Since almost no conferences play round robin anymore conference records are largely not considered important, what's important is who you played. Think in the ACC if one school has to play Duke, L'ville, FSU and UVA twice each and other school plays them only once. The first team may have a worse conference record but be the better team. NCST is the only bubble team in the ACC. Clemson has the quadrant 1 wins, but too many losses to lesser teams to be considered. Their loss to VT last night means they have to win the auto-bid. They are only 15-14 overall. Both Syracuse and Notre Dame are lacking in wins over any Tournament teams. ND also had a really weak OOC SOS so that is another black mark. Both would have to win the Conference Tourney. NCST has wins against both Duke and UVA (on the road). they also have a win over Wisconsin. But that is balanced with a fair bit of bad losses. none moreso than the 2 losses to UNC. They are arguably the most bubbly team in the country. They are last one in, first one out in most brackets. They certainly cannot afford to lose to Wake this weekend at home. As Cuse mentioned it is in GT's interest to have as many ACC teams qualify as possible. The more that qualify, the more money the conference potentially stands to make from the Tourney. The ACC has absolutely cleaned up in credits the last couple of years in the Tourney. This year is likely to be a down year. [/QUOTE]
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