2022 Rule changes

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I thought this was discussion worthy, especially this part

Blocking below the waist was addressed by the committee as well. It will be allowed by linemen and stationary running backs inside of the tackle box, but blocking below the waist outside of the tackle box is prohibited. Defensive holding will remain a 10-yard penalty, but will always carry an automatic first down.
 

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I thought this was discussion worthy, especially this part

Blocking below the waist was addressed by the committee as well. It will be allowed by linemen and stationary running backs inside of the tackle box, but blocking below the waist outside of the tackle box is prohibited. Defensive holding will remain a 10-yard penalty, but will always carry an automatic first down.
Ok, so what does that mean for depth downfield with the blocking below the waist? That's not really clear here. Could an a back still cut block a safety if that safety aligns 'within' the alignment of the tackles? I still am shocked that this is such a big point of contention given that we RARELY if ever saw guys get hurt from cuts when we ran the flexbone. I guess that the old switch block tag on triple we used to run would be illegal given that we would have an a back cut the corner and the WR clean house on #3? They just love to hate on the option. Also....the flexbone is notorious for spreading the hell out of the defense so I'm going to assume that these new rules will make Army Navy etc spread their splits out on the o line even further than before lol
 

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Ok, so what does that mean for depth downfield with the blocking below the waist? That's not really clear here. Could an a back still cut block a safety if that safety aligns 'within' the alignment of the tackles? I still am shocked that this is such a big point of contention given that we RARELY if ever saw guys get hurt from cuts when we ran the flexbone. I guess that the old switch block tag on triple we used to run would be illegal given that we would have an a back cut the corner and the WR clean house on #3? They just love to hate on the option. Also....the flexbone is notorious for spreading the hell out of the defense so I'm going to assume that these new rules will make Army Navy etc spread their splits out on the o line even further than before lol
I'm an idiot apologies lol did not know that a 3 yard depth was included in the definition of 'tackle box.' Man, I do not like this rule. I would love to see the statistics behind the decision here, because I'm nearly 100% sure that the NCAA referenced none.
 

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100% of $EC teams complained...
It's probably about the fact that most DB's are really bad at playing through a cut block while also staying mentally in the play. You have to focus on two things at once both of which are difficult to beat as opposed to an option or run play where you just get run blocked normally and can square up/locate your blocker easily. So definitely agree here. I can count on one hand the times I have seen a DB get injured on a cut block in 10 plus years of watching flexbone football. The block to make illegal that would make think you're worried about injuries is the WR switch block where even the likes of Brad Stewart were absolutely demolishing safeties scraping over the top. Go back and watch Bay Bay on some of those plays. I'm surprised we didn't kill some dudes.

Check out the block he throws at 30 seconds here. This one is a clean block 100% but the likelihood of an injury is much higher here than on a cutblock

 
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I forgot how good Nesbitt was in that offense. Also saw a twist stunt by the
DL on the left side with a TL. That team made some plays on both sides of the ball.
Second best QB behind Thomas imo. We didn't run quite as much triple with Nesbitt but he understood the philosophy of the offense and that it would open holes for him to get downfield even on designed runs. Powerful runner! Seems like a bygone era compared to our current teams unfortunately.
 

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I think the main thing here will be that the ABs get about the size of our 2014 team; 190 - 210. That outfit was big at the position. I also don't think it would hurt a back like, say, Godhigh or even Embry Peeples. (Peeples was a master of the cut block, but he knew how to get in the way of opposing D players too. Godhigh was simply a moose at 5'6", 190.) Provided everyone is hitting their blocks inside and the QB is running the ball correctly, all that is necessary is to get in the other guy's way downfield. No more Tony Zenons, however, and that's too bad.

The other thing this change favors is a QB/BB game. I always loved to watch that.
 

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It's probably about the fact that most DB's are really bad at playing through a cut block while also staying mentally in the play. You have to focus on two things at once both of which are difficult to beat as opposed to an option or run play where you just get run blocked normally and can square up/locate your blocker easily. So definitely agree here. I can count on one hand the times I have seen a DB get injured on a cut block in 10 plus years of watching flexbone football. The block to make illegal that would make think you're worried about injuries is the WR switch block where even the likes of Brad Stewart were absolutely demolishing safeties scraping over the top. Go back and watch Bay Bay on some of those plays. I'm surprised we didn't kill some dudes.

Check out the block he throws at 30 seconds here. This one is a clean block 100% but the likelihood of an injury is much higher here than on a cutblock


Wow so comforting to Recall we used to be competitive and entertaining...play like that and the stadium will be rocking...let's keep our fingers crossed this next season...
 

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Ok, so what does that mean for depth downfield with the blocking below the waist? That's not really clear here. Could an a back still cut block a safety if that safety aligns 'within' the alignment of the tackles? I still am shocked that this is such a big point of contention given that we RARELY if ever saw guys get hurt from cuts when we ran the flexbone. I guess that the old switch block tag on triple we used to run would be illegal given that we would have an a back cut the corner and the WR clean house on #3? They just love to hate on the option. Also....the flexbone is notorious for spreading the hell out of the defense so I'm going to assume that these new rules will make Army Navy etc spread their splits out on the o line even further than before lol

has to hash tackles with an RPO based on Defensive alignment to eh A on a smoke screen. Next wave for football formations.
 

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If i'm reading it right, the rocket toss would be a penalty inducing play as it was blocked by navy, us...etc.. Our AB's and WR's would go downfield and throw cut blocks to free space..
 

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If i'm reading it right, the rocket toss would be a penalty inducing play as it was blocked by navy, us...etc.. Our AB's and WR's would go downfield and throw cut blocks to free space..

Not just the rocket toss actually pretty much all perimeter speed toss's from every offense. This kills the 38 Toss Crack concept as well as made famous by ALabama running backs recent and a certain person from that school in athens in the 80s.
 

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It's probably about the fact that most DB's are really bad at playing through a cut block while also staying mentally in the play. You have to focus on two things at once both of which are difficult to beat as opposed to an option or run play where you just get run blocked normally and can square up/locate your blocker easily. So definitely agree here. I can count on one hand the times I have seen a DB get injured on a cut block in 10 plus years of watching flexbone football. The block to make illegal that would make think you're worried about injuries is the WR switch block where even the likes of Brad Stewart were absolutely demolishing safeties scraping over the top. Go back and watch Bay Bay on some of those plays. I'm surprised we didn't kill some dudes.

Check out the block he throws at 30 seconds here. This one is a clean block 100% but the likelihood of an injury is much higher here than on a cutblock


Thanks for the reminder of what quality, hard-nosed Tech football looked like.
 
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