2017 Offseason Thread

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AE 87 said:
I think his record at MSU was worse than CPJ here.
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Not really.

Saban was at MSU for 5 years. The first 2 were rebuilding. He went 23-13 the next three years. MSU did not play FCS teams.

Paul Johnson walked into a situation that did not need rebuilding. He went 17-7 (FBS) his first 2 years--his best back to back seasons at GT by far. The next 3 years he went 17-19 (FBS).

I'd say Saban had the better record, even though the overall numbers are close.
 

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jacketup said:
Not really.

Saban was at MSU for 5 years. The first 2 were rebuilding. He went 23-13 the next three years. MSU did not play FCS teams.

Paul Johnson walked into a situation that did not need rebuilding. He went 17-7 (FBS) his first 2 years--his best back to back seasons at GT by far. The next 3 years he went 17-19 (FBS).

I'd say Saban had the better record, even though the overall numbers are close.
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Jesus Christ man give it a rest with this tired "FBS record" shtick of yours. It is the epitome of cherry picking, which you've been compelled to do, I might add, once your "A Paul Johnson-coached GT team will never beat UGA" prediction was proven wrong in 2008.
 
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GTMetaphysician said:
Jesus Christ man give it a rest with this tired "FBS record" shtick of yours. It is the epitome of cherry picking, which you've been compelled to do, I might add, once your "A Paul Johnson-coached GT team will never beat UGA" prediction was proven wrong in 2008.
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I'm kind of impressed that you remember a claim a specific poster made back in 2008...a poster that it says joined the site in 2013.
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CPJ wearing Nike.....let the fan theories rage :D

Great dig at the dawgs tho...I haven't said that since leaving Athens that day.....time to bust it out again...football season draws near.
 
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NFL.com analyst Bucky Brooks: Chad Johnson, Megatron among best WR prospects I've scouted

1. Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech

Drafted: Second overall, 2007, Detroit Lions

There aren't enough adjectives to describe Megatron's rare combination of talents as a super-sized WR1 in the college game.

The 6-foot-5, 235-pound pass-catcher overpowered defenders in the ACC as a three-time all-conference performer with exceptional size, speed and leaping ability. Johnson blew past defenders on vertical routes, displaying outstanding acceleration and burst, but also created separation on short and intermediate routes as a "speed-cut" route runner. The 2006 Biletnikoff Award winner (top CFB WR) finished his collegiate career with 178 receptions for 2,927 receiving yards and 28 touchdowns in just 38 games. With Johnson also showing off world-class athletic traits at the NFL Scouting Combine (4.35-second 40-yard dash, 42.5-inch vertical jump and 11-foot-7-inch broad jump), it's not a surprise many scouts rated Johnson as the No. 1 prospect in his class.

The six-time Pro Bowl selectee definitely played the part as the Detroit Lions' WR1 on the way to amassing 731 receptions for 11,619 yards and 83 touchdowns in a spectacular nine-year career. Considering Johnson also shattered the single-season receiving yards mark (1,964) in 2012 and changed the way scouts view big-bodied receivers on the perimeter, I believe Megatron deserves the top spot on this list as a revolutionary player.
 
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CuseJacket said:
NFL.com analyst Bucky Brooks: Chad Johnson, Megatron among best WR prospects I've scouted

1. Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech

Drafted: Second overall, 2007, Detroit Lions

There aren't enough adjectives to describe Megatron's rare combination of talents as a super-sized WR1 in the college game.

The 6-foot-5, 235-pound pass-catcher overpowered defenders in the ACC as a three-time all-conference performer with exceptional size, speed and leaping ability. Johnson blew past defenders on vertical routes, displaying outstanding acceleration and burst, but also created separation on short and intermediate routes as a "speed-cut" route runner. The 2006 Biletnikoff Award winner (top CFB WR) finished his collegiate career with 178 receptions for 2,927 receiving yards and 28 touchdowns in just 38 games. With Johnson also showing off world-class athletic traits at the NFL Scouting Combine (4.35-second 40-yard dash, 42.5-inch vertical jump and 11-foot-7-inch broad jump), it's not a surprise many scouts rated Johnson as the No. 1 prospect in his class.

The six-time Pro Bowl selectee definitely played the part as the Detroit Lions' WR1 on the way to amassing 731 receptions for 11,619 yards and 83 touchdowns in a spectacular nine-year career. Considering Johnson also shattered the single-season receiving yards mark (1,964) in 2012 and changed the way scouts view big-bodied receivers on the perimeter, I believe Megatron deserves the top spot on this list as a revolutionary player.
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Most under-talked aspect to what made Calvin so awesome was the way he could track down a ball. He always adjusted to get himself in position to make the catch. Whether diving, jumping or going backwards he never took the wrong angle to the ball once it was in the air.
 
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Whiskey_Clear said:
CPJ wearing Nike.....let the fan theories rage :D

Great dig at the dawgs tho...I haven't said that since leaving Athens that day.....time to bust it out again...football season draws near.
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If you listen to the Mutt radio call of the 2014 game, the Kick and the Pick, just after Mitchell's touchdown, you hear somebody yelling "We run this state!" in the background of the Georgia booth.
Yeah, not so much, huh?
 
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GTMetaphysician said:
Jesus Christ man give it a rest with this tired "FBS record" shtick of yours. It is the epitome of cherry picking, which you've been compelled to do, I might add, once your "A Paul Johnson-coached GT team will never beat UGA" prediction was proven wrong in 2008.
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There is a reason that sites like TeamRankings.com disregard FCS stats. They are trying to compare apples to apples as best they can. They know that including FCS stats skews the comparisons.

On the fruit discussion, I am comparing FBS to FBS results like Team Ranking. I don't see how that's cherry picking. You are comparing apples to oranges in order to get the result you want. You can't overcome the undeniable fact that Paul Johnson is 2 games over .500 vs. FBS for the past 7 seasons, which is pretty mediocre, so you have to throw in some oranges (FCS wins).

And no, I am not anti-Paul Johnson. I hope he leads the team to 14-0 this year. I believe that 2016 was his best coaching job yet due to solid improvement over the course of the season. (Check Team Rankings which compares the last 4 games with overall season stats). Here's to keeping it going for 2017.
 
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Happy Bobby Bonilla Day! His annual $1.19 million payday is here
Today, the New York Mets will pay Bobby Bonilla another installment of $1,193,248.20.

Every July 1, from 2011 to 2035, the Mets make the payment as part of deferring the $5.9 million the Mets owed him from the 2000 season, a year in which he didn't play for the team, because they released him in January. As noted last year, Bonilla's agent worked out a deal that deferred payment (with an 8 percent annual interest rate).
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