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<blockquote data-quote="RamblinRed" data-source="post: 395104" data-attributes="member: 1776"><p>I thought the progression to the program would be like this</p><p>Yr 1 - 8-10 wins</p><p>Yr 2 - 13-15 wins</p><p>Yr 3 - 17-18 wins</p><p>Yr 4 - 20+ wins</p><p></p><p>We got 17 in the regular season last year (one against a Div 2 team).</p><p>We are likely headed to the 13-15 mark this season.</p><p>So we are pretty much on pace for my 4 yr process expectations. We just exceeded expectations last year and will likely hit expectations this year.</p><p>Given we are not looking to bring in alot of high 4 and 5 star type players it is simply going to take time to see if we can make this get old, stay old model work. I don't expect to be able to shortcut the time necessary to get there.</p><p></p><p>I don't have any problems with Josh's first recruiting class. Remember he did not have any assts hired until after the Spring 2016 AAU season was over. We basically made the decision to give up on having a big 2017 class to make sure we got the right assts instead. Alvarado has been better than I expected and Curtis is going to be fine. We'll know in 2 more years if Wright and Cole pan out.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Last night was really poor defense.</p><p>TO's are absolutely killing this team. They need to be about 10 per game. </p><p>Jackson has been beyond bad the last 2 games. lots of TO and fouls, no baskets.</p><p></p><p>Alvarado is coming along but he is upside down on assts to TO. That needs to change. In some ways he is more a SG right now than a PG - though that is partially out of necessity since none of the other guards except JO are producing right now.</p><p>Curtis needs to find his shot. He has missed his last 9 three pt attempts. It feels like he is being asked to be a three point marksman right now.</p><p>Lammers is getting a little better but is not close to what he was last year.</p><p>AD is coming along nicely. Only thing holding him back is fouls. He is currently 2nd on the team in FT% in ACC Games behind JO (excluding Curtis being 2-2), first in FG%.</p><p>AD's efficiency numbers are better than Ben's on a per min basis but behind him on a per game basis because Ben plays more min.</p><p></p><p>looking at efficiency metrics just in ACC games it sort of works out like this based on metrics for past year's.</p><p>JO - All-ACC level</p><p>Lammers - solid ACC starter (way below his efficiency level of last seasont though)</p><p>Gueye - solid ACC starter</p><p>Alvarado - low end ACC level starter (his metrics are now above Heath's. if he could reduce his TO and increase Assists his efficiency numbers will shoot up quickly to solid ACC starter level)</p><p>Jackson - low end ACC starter (his metrics are now below his metrics from last season)</p><p>Alston - deep reserve</p><p>Haywood - deep reserve (will move up to backup if he can start to shoot better)</p><p></p><p>it was well known before the season that winning this year was going to rely heavily on the big 3 returnees. Unfortunately at this time 2 of the 3 are playing at a level below last season. There is simply no way this year's team can win many ACC games unless Jackson and Lammers start to significantly up their games - at least to last year's levels.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RamblinRed, post: 395104, member: 1776"] I thought the progression to the program would be like this Yr 1 - 8-10 wins Yr 2 - 13-15 wins Yr 3 - 17-18 wins Yr 4 - 20+ wins We got 17 in the regular season last year (one against a Div 2 team). We are likely headed to the 13-15 mark this season. So we are pretty much on pace for my 4 yr process expectations. We just exceeded expectations last year and will likely hit expectations this year. Given we are not looking to bring in alot of high 4 and 5 star type players it is simply going to take time to see if we can make this get old, stay old model work. I don't expect to be able to shortcut the time necessary to get there. I don't have any problems with Josh's first recruiting class. Remember he did not have any assts hired until after the Spring 2016 AAU season was over. We basically made the decision to give up on having a big 2017 class to make sure we got the right assts instead. Alvarado has been better than I expected and Curtis is going to be fine. We'll know in 2 more years if Wright and Cole pan out. Last night was really poor defense. TO's are absolutely killing this team. They need to be about 10 per game. Jackson has been beyond bad the last 2 games. lots of TO and fouls, no baskets. Alvarado is coming along but he is upside down on assts to TO. That needs to change. In some ways he is more a SG right now than a PG - though that is partially out of necessity since none of the other guards except JO are producing right now. Curtis needs to find his shot. He has missed his last 9 three pt attempts. It feels like he is being asked to be a three point marksman right now. Lammers is getting a little better but is not close to what he was last year. AD is coming along nicely. Only thing holding him back is fouls. He is currently 2nd on the team in FT% in ACC Games behind JO (excluding Curtis being 2-2), first in FG%. AD's efficiency numbers are better than Ben's on a per min basis but behind him on a per game basis because Ben plays more min. looking at efficiency metrics just in ACC games it sort of works out like this based on metrics for past year's. JO - All-ACC level Lammers - solid ACC starter (way below his efficiency level of last seasont though) Gueye - solid ACC starter Alvarado - low end ACC level starter (his metrics are now above Heath's. if he could reduce his TO and increase Assists his efficiency numbers will shoot up quickly to solid ACC starter level) Jackson - low end ACC starter (his metrics are now below his metrics from last season) Alston - deep reserve Haywood - deep reserve (will move up to backup if he can start to shoot better) it was well known before the season that winning this year was going to rely heavily on the big 3 returnees. Unfortunately at this time 2 of the 3 are playing at a level below last season. There is simply no way this year's team can win many ACC games unless Jackson and Lammers start to significantly up their games - at least to last year's levels. [/QUOTE]
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