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It used to depend on who you played for too. At least it’s ok for everyone now.

I don’t think that’s fair to beer. I have made the transition almost entirely to whisky…. So something else must be doing it.

I don’t… I’m just saying the ACC ALONE can’t do anything with regard to GOR. Could they make phone calls or invite some and call others? Sure, anything is possible… but why would they? If only the ACC is required to mediate, it’s pointless exercise. If the ACC sits on their hands and says...

Yup.. everything you’re saying about corporations is true. you’re correct in your application of logic / tactics / organizational aspects of corporate entities. They have individuals and or boards empowered to make these decisions. That is NOT the case with this… not by a long shot. The GOR...

I get that. The first criteria for mediation is getting decision-makers together. Mediation is worthless if the people in mediation aren’t decision-makers I am not sure the ACC is a decision maker in this case. All they can do is defend the agreement that is in place. They can’t make any...

OK… Can the ACC actually mediate? Do they have the authority to unilaterally make any decision regarding membership and the GOR at this point? I would think any mediation would have to somehow be backed by all of the members who have to agree to whatever modification to the GOR comes out of it...

So this is in essence the middle school teacher saying, “None of you followed directions. Do it all over and turn it in on Monday…” This whole ordeal felt like a bunch of petulant preteen whining … I guess this seals it. :D WRT the bold… about the most unsurprising result ever? :ROFLMAO:

Tell me about circumstances that would lead to a judge ordering an amended complaint, please. Did they “feel out” a strategy in court that wasn’t reflected by their complaint as written? Would ordering an amended complaint be a “roadmap” of sorts to a complaint with actual “teeth” to it? It...

Just the fact that someone can post that with a straight face makes me all tingly inside.

Gosh… I wonder if things like this were said in 2021? Nah, totally different scenario, I’m sure. ;)

….And the other two have been “power 4” for about 15 minutes.

Good Lord… I’m sorry my click got counted on that! Wake makes the cut and we didn’t? Must’ve been a uGA fan

Ah.. so yes, “voluntary” may not be the most apropos adjective considering there was a contractual deadline. However, “mutually agreed” likely is. The only thing we know for certain is that the deadline moved. As FSU fans would have us believe, maybe it moved because ESPN said, “we hate this...

For exactly the reason I stated above?

I keep hearing that argument, particularly from FSU fans…. My response is to ask, who in the hell was voluntarily making long term decisions (especially in the areas of sports / leisure / entertainment) in 2020-2021? I don’t think that extension means as much as FSU fans WANT it to mean.

We will know soon. If it’s “pretty lucrative” with FSU and Clem, ESPN will stay in the deal thru ‘36. If ESPN is in the deal, GOR holds Clem and FSU in the deal too. Much ado about nothing. On the other hand, if it isn’t lucrative, we’ll know when ESPN refuses the option. That will touch off a...

While I agree completely with your take on the BIG and SEC position on this, I sure hope someone somewhere sees real profit in something like this before the ACC is over and done. I think once the ACC dominoes fall, schools are going to find themselves stuck (for better or worse) wherever they...

So now schools can afford to pay better than rookie contracts… next they’ll lobby for additional eligibility so they can hold on to them for five, maybe six years. And yeah… scholarships are for suckers!

Possibly? ESPN isn’t without fault, but I don’t think they are the primary driver. Greed trumped allegiance, history, etc for conferences. This realignment stuff was spooling up before the revenues exploded. ESPN is certainly throwing around money to sweeten their own piece of the pie… no...

That’s actually really good:LOL: