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Honestly this thread really confirms how good we had it under CPJ CPJ wasn't shy on talking about the lack of resources from Tech and fan support, But he managed to get us to pretty good years , even with recruiting lower start kids. Thing Is I remember pretty much all through his tenure...

Miami beating Clemson , lol. Clemson really having a bad year

That was my thought. Seems like Everytime we "turn the corner" we try to do more and overcomplicate things. Miami was a messy game, but we played a 4qtr game. Almost felt like we tried too many new things yesterday instead of using what worked

#1) happened last season when our president fired the athletic director and hired JBatt We're half a season into the effective changes,.I know it feels like a lifetime since GT Football was good (2014) season and maybe 2015. But we have to have patience

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Again I don't think you are taking into account the bigger picture at tech. Going from CPJ to Collins was already a mountain,.then fixing Collins mistakes and.fixing the hole he left us , even bigger. I'm tired of this thinking all the time that Tech should have done better. People did this...

I think you are forgetting that it was known that Collins hamstrung his staff including Key. Plenty of assistants have come from similar situations and become HC to turn things around. Dabo comes to mind Key already talked about keeping Thacker was due to his performance the last few games last...

Crazy to see Duke beating up on fsu

Duke didn't have a Collins mess to clean up, or a big transition away from the triple option. Had we hired the right coach after cpj , we wouldn't be where we are now likely

That's not all true. Key did enough.last season to win the position, players already mesh well with him, and wouldn't impact recruiting. Fritz is good but would have required a full rebuild once again. I'm just floored that so many wanted to give Collins 3-4 years or even give CPJ extra time...

Bingo, too many folks are acting on emotions and being reactionary. We need to allow the program to stabilize. I know folks are still feeling from the Collins era and want immediate results, but we have to allow key to build his program. And I know folks are worried about giving another coach...

Deon still has issues as well, did no one see the collapse last week and the shut out two weeks ago. His players also would never been able to get into tech

This is something that has always been an issue at tech. There are other schools even on down years that have fans that show up and support the program in large numbers. We don't have that luxury at tech anymore. Unfortunately I know it sucks for us, but we gotta support the team and if that...

Guess I'm just not in the mindset as you, where we gotta give him more of a chance. Because honestly folks like you will just dump on the next coach we get if you aren't happy .

If we do that, we're still looking at at least another 3-4 years of being meh with the same thing we're in now. You ok with that? I honestly think we got spoiled under CPJ , but at the same time we didn't really have a good athletic director that saw the evolving landscape on CFB

It's not , but you know just as much as I do that were in a bad place right now. Do you really think it would be smart to fire another coach again. It doesn't take a genius either to understand the we aren't getting a better coach anytime soon, maybe better assistants I honestly do think key...

We aren't in a very good place at the moment so many ups and downs and it seems like our fan base is fractured. Not key or kings best day, likely no bowl game unless another miracle happens Unfortunately just sucks to be a tech fan right now

If key isn't the answer to you all, then who is. Who will come here on a next to nothing salary, no fan support, no money for assistants and fans ready to dump him at a moments notice. I'm not saying key hasn't made mistakes , but y'all gotta realize how much of a hole were in now from Collins...

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