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You guys really know how to thread some needles! :)

That was my take as well. If Deion doesn’t get a P5 deal in the next 2 years, I would be surprised to see him leave a HBCU.

No... I’m not explaining or you’re not comprehending or both... Shadeur is a soph, I believe. His final two years of eligibility are 23&24. Augusta said he suspected that many P5 teams could be passing on Deion (for now) because his son is a package deal at QB and they don’t want that. I...

Do you mean he would take a P5 job for the $$$ to provide for his kids? my question was meant in response to you noting that P5 programs may not want to commit to his kid as QB. So, after his eligibility is gone, does Deion want to move to P5 if it doesn’t get his kid on the field? I agree...

Which begs kind of an interesting question... you think Deion will be interested in taking a P5 job if it doesn’t get his son on the field there (in other words, a few years from now when his kid is gone)? I kind of get the feeling he is pretty proud to be doing what he’s doing at a HBCU...

I took it quite another way... I think Kiffin wants nothing to do with Auburn and he would love to see them make a mistake and end up in a bigger tailspin. Deion may or may not be that mistake, but he's trolling. The more drama, the better for Kiff.

Like I said when his comments were swirling about our game with Ole Miss... Lane Kiffin - Professional Troll

Interesting question. From a coaching perspective and an initial contract perspective, I think a lot of coaches would take the position that they don't want to be judged on what they do with someone else's guys. Basically saying, four years is the minimum to get a group of guys that I have...

Your reply was better than mine, and I’m totally biased. :LOL:

Got it. Clarity over agreement. (y)

Pretty good strawmen set up there, but I'll play. Consistent top 25 is the domain of P5 programs, so your question is somewhat contradictory if I read it right, but I'll answer regardless.... Clawson comes to mind, as does Sonny Dykes, who did pretty well at SMU and seems to be translating OK...

"Literally" not true. Its an easy, lazy metric fans point to. Good programs do recruit well - that sample set proves little to nothing. Some bad programs recruit well. Some good programs recruit poorly. I don't give a **** about an offensive guru and there are no unicorns. The ONLY thing...

Top programs are paying <$10M / year when all you need is a competent coach, which are a dime a dozen... Especially those programs that can recruit top 10... why would they do that? Just more money than sense? So why not go get Joe Schmo competent coach, pay him about $500k, and dump all of our...

On the other hand, if we’re announcing in January, that means our guy is instrumental for a team playing in a MEANINGFUL bowl game in January. Sounds OK to me...

As to the first part... It’s a two way street... The second... 🍿

Saban started winning 12 games a season in 2008. He did that all with freshmen recruits? Of course not! That’s coaching. No one is saying he doesn’t recruit, but he won 12 games with other people’s guys and never won fewer than 10 again! By the way, Bama is the worst example possible; they...

Poke...

This is great... now what do we argue about? :(

Stolen? I remember “equipment issues...”. Was that just the “PC” explanation? Was I naive enough to buy it? :LOL:

Fair... I have seen all about mental illness and I’m sure there were events surrounding that. I’m not aware of law breaking going on at UGA or Dooley’s role in glossing over it afterward but it doesn’t surprise me to hear that he (and other college coaches) cover for kids who insure their...