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If Clemson said “no thanks” to the BIG/SEC, that would probably be the most newsworthy thing out of this entire expansion fiasco.

If the pro rata clause laid out by @RamblinRed Is what I interpreted it to be, it sounds like they’re worth about $40 million. ND=/=SMU, So I believe there is missing context. I’d love to know more if someone has the info.

interesting info... with the pro rata clause you describe, this now seems like a bigger hurdle for ESPN than it does for ACC members. It begs the question how the last two viable PAC members could be worth $40m to ESPN... is the deal worded in such a way that the ACC is guaranteed that money...

Did I read that Wash / Oregon are getting $20m in the BIG? 60-70% of the last ACC payout is $24m- $27m. Crazy turn of events if ESPN stepped up bigger than Fox / BIG.

Kidding aside, interesting scenario. Hard divisions is tough... especially when you put GT up top and a very recent pair of ACCCG participants (Pitt / WF) in the bottom. Maybe we still play our division-less schedule but have the payout tiers based on performance that year? For the record...

One thing we should all agree on is that we are NOT doing anymore $@#%!!! favors for Temple.

We’re a kinder, gentler society now. It’s possible Brohm’s reaction was for spectators or media present and it may have been different in a closed setting. Who knows... I don’t put any real stake in it one way or another, but I certainly enjoy the pointing and laughing aspect as a fan. If our...

This part kind of worries me. Just being better than “negative” isn’t much of a test. I’m hoping this is step one of a bigger play (ND?), but that’s a REAL long shot I think. This move (if made) feels like a “post-ACC as we know it” play. Stanford and Cal make some sense even if it’s status quo...

NIL money down the drain... Ooops. Hey, ACC detractors... one bright side to playing here is that the NCAA enforces stuff against our opponents. This kid gets Immediate eligibility at an SEC or BIG school! :D

This is an eight year chart with three abysmal years included for Tech. The first of those abysmal years probably wasn’t as bad since there was optimism in spite of results. The last two were probably pretty bad. How much of a drag was there on these figures? What I’m really interested in is...

It’s an interesting notion. I agree that schools take away scholarships and such if that becomes the model... unless they can include tuition in the calculation somehow. At any rate, I don’t think it does much to level the field, honestly. Its a really slippery slope for government to...

All of this is right but I think your conclusion is arguing a point no one is making. I don’t think anyone believe the ACC as we know it will be around in 10 years, much less 12-13 years. Well, I certainly don’t believe it but maybe I shouldn’t speak for others. The people who are talking about...

From a practical standpoint, that makes perfect sense. In the court of public opinion it will just be another data point for the weakness of the ACC, even though we know it’s an olive branch to those two programs. Regardless, I don’t see it happening. Between ESPN money issues and at least one...

“Vet and have early exploratory discussions on potential...” Hard to work anymore caveats and qualifiers into that. Lack of money and interest may still be true. The GOR just says new members have to sign it. Not sure there is anything more to that. What might be interesting is getting them...

Not sure there is anything newsworthy but some of the pot shots are kind of funny. https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/luke-decock/article277971288.html

I get the feeling that classes won’t be an impediment to where big time college football is headed

You’re right. Not defending what SMU did, just saying thats where I think NCAA was derailed for good. A big part of what SMU did was in response to the cheating that was already going on. There was a whole lot of rule breaking prior to SMU, but SMU took it to a new level. The other guys were...

Honestly, I think SMU took away any gumption the NCAA had for difficult enforcement decisions. I didn’t pay attention in real time... I was too young when it started and not interested in the fallout as a teenager. Learning how it all went down after the fact, I think that situation was always...

Good question. I’m also not a recruiting follower but I think it used to be a whole lot more important than it is today. There is so much national exposure now that I don’t think it’s nearly as big of a deal. It’s nice to tell a recruit you’ll play in their backyard a couple of times during...

Yes, except for the fact that we all have to engage in the system and go ahead and make that choice. With college football, there are a lot of other entertainment alternatives and I will damn sure find one before I start supporting the “local” CFB team