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You are free to disagree but as a third party who sits right in the middle I believe that your observation is inaccurate. To me, and I am an avowed fanboy of both our previous AND current staffs, I saw exactly that same vibe the last 11 years just pointed in the other direction. It didn’t start...

They were, indeed, hard to look at :wtf::inpain:

If I haven’t said this before... you have, by far, my favorite poster name! The only one that could even rival yours would be ClydeTrees [emoji23][emoji219] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

In actuality it's not new at all. And it has absolutely nothing to do with the "new regime." The extremity of the division has been going on since, I think, Chan Gailey became our head coach. I didn't see it as much until then. That's when the vehemence began to take center stage. Make no...

I took some time to digest what you said. Here's a few comments about my observations: 1) Yes of course the threads typically start with a statement of opinion and then, instead of there being what I termed "conversation" it instantly becomes an argument/debate. I wish sometimes it would take...

This is the problem with most threads. Too many people see them as a debate to win instead of a conversation in which to take part. You’re not listening to understand. You’re waiting to hear something you can pounce on. And the same goes for the other side of the debate. Sent from my iPhone...

I was crying laughing when I read your post knowing it would rile people up. Well played, sir! :-)

The incompleteness of so many of these rationalizations in this thread are spectacular. I’m greatly enjoying this thread [emoji1787][emoji23][emoji1787] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thank you for sharing those insights. I'm really bad at recognizing those nuances and appreciate when others bring them to the board.

Totally agree! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’m rapidly starting to feel the same way. So much “I want the team to win but I don’t want to let them have fun doing it” and “everything needs to be what I want it to be” happening. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Bwahahaahaaaaa. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Of all the complaints this is the only legitimate one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is something I will never understand. Any time someone points out something that the players like, such as music, gimmicky stuff, or uniforms the response from folks who don’t like it is something such as “well if that fires up the players then we have bigger problems.” Why do you care so...

Yup. I don’t like the money down thing, myself. But if it fires up the players at all I’ll play along. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don’t like it, either. And certainly I’d rather see it go away. But I think you think people care about what GT does more than they actually do. Other schools/teams have rally signs and stuff and sure, occasionally they get made into memes (which are usually pretty funny). And nobody really...

It's fascinating to see how people will work extremely hard to give other teams credit and work equally as hard to avoid giving the same to our own team. And this has been going on for quite a while. It's not new to this year. And it's not always the same people. Just an observation.

I don't know if it's CDP or not (though my friend will tell you that I was really upset with CDP during the game). I do know he doesn't have the ideal tools with which to work. But then again it's on him to be able to figure out the most effective way to use whatever he has and I'm not even...

I completely agree with you on this one. I am in my early 50's but I think I'm pretty open to new ideas and accepting of different things. But even I don't care for the "money down" thing and I also didn't care for the "It's THIIRRRDDDD DOWNNN" stuff. I think if we look out our windows we...