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The lawyers would have a blast but everyone else is looking at a lot less money in that situation for sure. So the more I think about it the more I imagine those things were probably intentionally coupled together. If the pie just got a lot smaller and you’re FSU or whoever, you’d want the...

The GOR directly references the ESPN deal from reports here and elsewhere, such as https://amp.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/article263209048.html I’m not a lawyer but if a member agreed to “irrevocably and exclusively grants to the conference during the term all rights necessary for the...

I think there’s a lot less generational spread between most popular music genres than there used to be + later starts to families so you’ve gotta compete with all the people in my generation that have jobs and also free time. We don’t have pensions or reasonably priced property but we can...

I know someone at a company in the e-gaming space and it’s funny how much it mirrors traditional sports as an industry. Apparently they’re still in the “can’t figure out how to make big money off of it because people are used to watching it for free” stage. There will doubtless be a lot of...

And phones have only gotten more expensive since then!

From what I've seen of the under-30 crowd nowdays, they're where the real change is: they don't *want* to have all of Hulu/Peacock/TV/Disney/Amazon/Paramount/whoever to fully replace their cable bundle. They didn't grow up on the cable bundle the same way I did. They have random whoevers on...

I think that’s true, I think there’s a certain amount of attrition that will only happen through natural causes, as it were. No reason for ESPN and all to STOP putting sports on those channels too for people, just have to find a profitable way to move away from exclusivity. Honestly it could be...

Cable subscribers are dropping something like 5-10% a year, and that’s with sports still pretty much locked up to cable. If you are in LA and pay for YouTubeTV then I think the Big10 Network likely gets more money for you once USC/UCLA join. When I was at a competitor then sports network...

Agreed about the money, but there’s a cultural difference with a lot of the west coast schools though, similar with GT. Where I live in CA, UW is known for academics and I see pretty much as many GT shirts as UW shirts come football season. (Not a lot of either). When I’ve been in Seattle in...

Or the ACC is just bad at money. ;) But personally I don’t think Oregon/Washington are actually that valuable here. They aren’t that prominent. I think they are in the same boat as GT where you’re gonna need the conferences to bet on “the only way the denominator keeps going up - or doesn’t...

Classifying as employees and then negotiating with a union a la the major pro leagues is probably the only chance of getting control over compensation and transfers, more like the old days but with above the table money and both schools and players having a seat at the table to make the rules...

as a subsidiary of Disney could ESPN go bankrupt individually?

Which part of all the articles from Oct/Nov of last year doesn't count as hearing about it to you? If something has changed, that would have been newsworthy! There's a LOT of coverage about the Pac 12 hasn't closed a deal, yet silence since "sources report the Big 12 is closing their deal" six+...

If it did close or if it broke up? The latest news I can find is November saying “deal finalized”, I think we’d be hearing about “bad news, it fell through” and “still trying to figure something out” if there had been ongoing negotiations since then. Edit: recent article...

Meanwhile as background to all this: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/05/cable-tv-has-fewest-subscribers-since-1992-youtube-tv-is-the-only-riser/

OU/TX were already out at the time, I’m not easily finding any later-than-2022 news suggesting that it didn’t close.

The Big 12’s next deal is better - https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34910144/big-12-nears-six-year-228b-tv-extension-deal-espn-fox - but not a lot better, it’s not hard for me to see the ACC keeping pace. But that Big 12 deal expires in 2031. Depending on the overall sports...

I don't think 8 can do anything, but if you've got 7 who already want to blow it up in 2023, and 13 whole years to go... can't be good odds of making it all 13 years without reaching 12 schools ready to end it. Question is what's posturing and what isn't, and what sort of results you can get...

They stuck them on Amazon though, so that could be a big opportunity to get folks who aren't on the "get every single streaming option" train, or who look first at their cable TV guide.

We're worried here that there won't be a place for GT to go. There are other programs in the conference that are far *less* attractive, and that's leverage that can be used against them. They have a pretty strong hand thanks to the GOR, but just how strong do they think it is / are there lawyers...