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Wake forest lost to Army last year you know. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If all ACC teams win all their nonconference games, then everybody has a better record top to bottom which puts more teams in the top 25 which means a better bowl in the end for Georgia Tech. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Remember NC State is one of the few teams with a good returning qb, so I still think they can reach 8-4. I'll agree with you on UNC. But again my point is every upset has been setup to look worse and every rebuilding year like UNC's will be held up as an "ACC sucks" example. Betcha FSU falls...

I should've posted this before the weekend, but it sure seemed like they were setting-up the ACC for a fall. The conference has one outstanding season and now all the pundits go out of their way to claim the ACC is the best in the nation, as if some permanent shift had occurred. Yet with so...

Question about our B-back depth. Ideally Howard and/or Ponchez-Mason would have redshirted this year, but then the Mills exit ruined that...or did it? Hypothetically what if Benson and Weimershirch both totally ball-out in the first couple games and it becomes clear we're set at that position...