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<blockquote data-quote="cpf2001" data-source="post: 952987" data-attributes="member: 6459"><p>I think Collins was terrible, I think it's also just funny that here the transition-apologists are talking a LOT about how the changed roster needs means coming off a winning season with a couple of recent 9+ win seasons is actually "the hardest transition in college football" but aren't doing any specific handicapping of, say, is that harder than trying to get back to bowl games after taking over a program that's gone 3-9 year after year after year? If you expect the "average" non-option coach to struggle with the 2019 team, what would you expect the "average" coach to do after taking over a 3-9 Collins team?</p><p></p><p>If we want to see quick improvement - hell, if we even believe in the improvement we saw last year - we have to hope that the Collins factor was a massive hindrance.</p><p></p><p>And then if we accept that Collins was holding the recent teams back by a few wins... why wouldn't we assume he also held the 2019 team back? But some folks seem willing to say "Collins sucked, we're gonna be better without him" but *not* say "Collins sucked, we would've been better without him in 2019 too."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cpf2001, post: 952987, member: 6459"] I think Collins was terrible, I think it's also just funny that here the transition-apologists are talking a LOT about how the changed roster needs means coming off a winning season with a couple of recent 9+ win seasons is actually "the hardest transition in college football" but aren't doing any specific handicapping of, say, is that harder than trying to get back to bowl games after taking over a program that's gone 3-9 year after year after year? If you expect the "average" non-option coach to struggle with the 2019 team, what would you expect the "average" coach to do after taking over a 3-9 Collins team? If we want to see quick improvement - hell, if we even believe in the improvement we saw last year - we have to hope that the Collins factor was a massive hindrance. And then if we accept that Collins was holding the recent teams back by a few wins... why wouldn't we assume he also held the 2019 team back? But some folks seem willing to say "Collins sucked, we're gonna be better without him" but *not* say "Collins sucked, we would've been better without him in 2019 too." [/QUOTE]
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