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Which college football coaches consistently produce overachievers or underachievers? [Bill Connelly]
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<blockquote data-quote="4shotB" data-source="post: 433424" data-attributes="member: 844"><p>I have a little bit of an issue with the methodology here. Coaches are measured vs. the expectations of others, thus Saban is way down on the list. That's a bit like saying Tiger and Jack were merely OK golfers because they won the majors at a rate that was expected of them whereas Brooks Koepka is an exceptional overachiever because no one foresaw him winning 2 US Opens. </p><p></p><p>To me, the hallmark of a great coach is someone who "moves the needle" and changes the expectations and perceptions of a program. Examples - Saban took an already great FB program and is performing at a level perhaps unprecedented even for Bama. Snyder - no one had even heard of KS before he arrived. Swinney - took a good program and made it an annual NC contender. Using this methodology, if he has a "down" year (say 9 wins which used to be a very good Clemson season)vs. the norm that he has created, he will be dinged somewhat in this system if I understand it correctly. Cutcliffe is another guy (no matter how you feel about him or Duke) who has changed the culture and outside perceptions/expectations of a program. We now have GT fans who anticipate this game with apprehension. How often has that happened in our lifetime?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="4shotB, post: 433424, member: 844"] I have a little bit of an issue with the methodology here. Coaches are measured vs. the expectations of others, thus Saban is way down on the list. That's a bit like saying Tiger and Jack were merely OK golfers because they won the majors at a rate that was expected of them whereas Brooks Koepka is an exceptional overachiever because no one foresaw him winning 2 US Opens. To me, the hallmark of a great coach is someone who "moves the needle" and changes the expectations and perceptions of a program. Examples - Saban took an already great FB program and is performing at a level perhaps unprecedented even for Bama. Snyder - no one had even heard of KS before he arrived. Swinney - took a good program and made it an annual NC contender. Using this methodology, if he has a "down" year (say 9 wins which used to be a very good Clemson season)vs. the norm that he has created, he will be dinged somewhat in this system if I understand it correctly. Cutcliffe is another guy (no matter how you feel about him or Duke) who has changed the culture and outside perceptions/expectations of a program. We now have GT fans who anticipate this game with apprehension. How often has that happened in our lifetime? [/QUOTE]
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