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<blockquote data-quote="RamblinRed" data-source="post: 881931" data-attributes="member: 1776"><p>IMO there are 3 equally important pieces to running a successful college football program.</p><p>One is recruiting. What level of talent do you bring in?</p><p>Second is player development. How good are you at taking that raw talent and developing it into legitimate college football players?</p><p>Third is coaching - both preparation and game day. How good are you at making a game plan for an opponent and how good are you at using that game prep and making changes during the game as situations unfold?</p><p></p><p>I don't see any of those as being more significant than the others. All 3 are legs of a stool that need to be strong. </p><p>The best programs excel at all three. Good programs tend to do well at 2 of them. Those that are good at fewer than 2 of them tend to be poor programs. </p><p></p><p>IMO CGC was hired almost exclusively for the first leg. He was expected to be an excellent recruiter but didn't have enough experience to provide much insight into whether he would be good at the other 2 legs. Unfortunately the results of that first leg have been good but not great (I wouldn't classify his program as being outstanding at recruiting). For the other 2 legs I would say CGC's program has been flat out poor. </p><p></p><p>From Augusta Jacket (in parentheses is the rank among ACC schools that year)</p><p>"The 5 recruiting classes prior to CGC coming to Tech were ranked 53(9), 41(8), 67(13), 39(8), 47(11)."</p><p></p><p></p><p>This year's recruiting suggest leg 1 is going to go pretty poorly so we absolutely have to be alot better at legs 2 and 3 just to have a chance to improve at all over the next few seasons. </p><p>Collins first 4 classes have been 43(8) -this is partially CPJ's recruits, 25(5), 48(11), 52(9). Currently the 2023 class is ranked 47(12).</p><p></p><p>CPJ's last 5 classes avg 10th in the ACC. Collins first 4 avg 8th and when you look at the current likely outcome of 2023 (based on avg ratings) it will probably slide to closer to 9 for the first 5 classes.</p><p>So there has been modest improvement but hardly earthshaking and it is really based almost entirely on one class that has not been replicated before or since (and has had 2 of its 4 highest rated recruits transfer away). </p><p></p><p>If you want to take into account transfers 247Sports is trying to do that now. With transfers the 2022 class moves from #52(9) to #44(7). Some improvement, but overall it keeps the avg numbers pretty close to where they are.</p><p></p><p>If GT doesn't over perform on the field this year than recruiting is likely to be at or below the previous regimes recruiting both this year and next (if the current staff is retained).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RamblinRed, post: 881931, member: 1776"] IMO there are 3 equally important pieces to running a successful college football program. One is recruiting. What level of talent do you bring in? Second is player development. How good are you at taking that raw talent and developing it into legitimate college football players? Third is coaching - both preparation and game day. How good are you at making a game plan for an opponent and how good are you at using that game prep and making changes during the game as situations unfold? I don't see any of those as being more significant than the others. All 3 are legs of a stool that need to be strong. The best programs excel at all three. Good programs tend to do well at 2 of them. Those that are good at fewer than 2 of them tend to be poor programs. IMO CGC was hired almost exclusively for the first leg. He was expected to be an excellent recruiter but didn't have enough experience to provide much insight into whether he would be good at the other 2 legs. Unfortunately the results of that first leg have been good but not great (I wouldn't classify his program as being outstanding at recruiting). For the other 2 legs I would say CGC's program has been flat out poor. From Augusta Jacket (in parentheses is the rank among ACC schools that year) "The 5 recruiting classes prior to CGC coming to Tech were ranked 53(9), 41(8), 67(13), 39(8), 47(11)." This year's recruiting suggest leg 1 is going to go pretty poorly so we absolutely have to be alot better at legs 2 and 3 just to have a chance to improve at all over the next few seasons. Collins first 4 classes have been 43(8) -this is partially CPJ's recruits, 25(5), 48(11), 52(9). Currently the 2023 class is ranked 47(12). CPJ's last 5 classes avg 10th in the ACC. Collins first 4 avg 8th and when you look at the current likely outcome of 2023 (based on avg ratings) it will probably slide to closer to 9 for the first 5 classes. So there has been modest improvement but hardly earthshaking and it is really based almost entirely on one class that has not been replicated before or since (and has had 2 of its 4 highest rated recruits transfer away). If you want to take into account transfers 247Sports is trying to do that now. With transfers the 2022 class moves from #52(9) to #44(7). Some improvement, but overall it keeps the avg numbers pretty close to where they are. If GT doesn't over perform on the field this year than recruiting is likely to be at or below the previous regimes recruiting both this year and next (if the current staff is retained). [/QUOTE]
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