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<blockquote data-quote="JacketFan137" data-source="post: 877020" data-attributes="member: 5973"><p>i think this is the thing the johnson army has failed to consider. there are very substantial issues that any coach was gonna face and honestly i think that was part of the reason it was slim pickings for our coaching search. pointing these out isn’t an outright endorsement of collins and is not an outright blame of johnson but many posters have their minds up that johnson was an infallible coach.</p><p></p><p>reality was the program needed SOMETHING cause it was trending south. since thomas left we were 24-25, and there was nothing to indicate we were gonna turn that around. the results against our rivals were terrible and we hadnt played a competitive game vs clemson and uga for years. collins took over, and going into it i think the ideas were certainly correct. the rebrand, bigger emphasis and actual effort on recruiting (which was successful btw, just lost momentum based on on field results), a coach who actually made an effort to be vocal and sell the program, etc. now unfortunately a lot of that has been undone based on poor results on the field. no one on this board has said that collins is a good gameday coach the past two years (although anything but excessive negativity means we apparently think this).</p><p></p><p>i still don’t think it’s unsalvageable on the field. there is talent on the roster and new staff members can bring that out to a higher level. there are coaches that are in a similar vein to collins that were successful once they got the right coordinators in.</p><p></p><p>will i be upset if we fire collins tomorrow? not at all. i just still think we are a few different breaks from a better season and we can find those this year. i’m not confident obviously but i think we are much closer than people realize whether that’s with collins or someone else</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JacketFan137, post: 877020, member: 5973"] i think this is the thing the johnson army has failed to consider. there are very substantial issues that any coach was gonna face and honestly i think that was part of the reason it was slim pickings for our coaching search. pointing these out isn’t an outright endorsement of collins and is not an outright blame of johnson but many posters have their minds up that johnson was an infallible coach. reality was the program needed SOMETHING cause it was trending south. since thomas left we were 24-25, and there was nothing to indicate we were gonna turn that around. the results against our rivals were terrible and we hadnt played a competitive game vs clemson and uga for years. collins took over, and going into it i think the ideas were certainly correct. the rebrand, bigger emphasis and actual effort on recruiting (which was successful btw, just lost momentum based on on field results), a coach who actually made an effort to be vocal and sell the program, etc. now unfortunately a lot of that has been undone based on poor results on the field. no one on this board has said that collins is a good gameday coach the past two years (although anything but excessive negativity means we apparently think this). i still don’t think it’s unsalvageable on the field. there is talent on the roster and new staff members can bring that out to a higher level. there are coaches that are in a similar vein to collins that were successful once they got the right coordinators in. will i be upset if we fire collins tomorrow? not at all. i just still think we are a few different breaks from a better season and we can find those this year. i’m not confident obviously but i think we are much closer than people realize whether that’s with collins or someone else [/QUOTE]
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