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<blockquote data-quote="lv20gt" data-source="post: 922166" data-attributes="member: 2299"><p>Here's the way I look/looked at it. With the state of the program when he was hired, and especially the state of the roster, it made sense to me to give him 5 years. At the end of that 5 years we had back to back winning conference records for the first time since lethal weapon 3 and won the ACC for the first time since Best. It was by no means perfect but my opinion is that first five year stretch was a success and for me it earned him a mini reset. Not of the full 5 years but for 3 with the idea being one year for the step back, one year for the building up, and then one year for a payoff. Last year was the step back, this year we'll see how we develop, but I doubt we'll fire him unless we completely crater. Whether we'll get the payoff next year remains to be seen. If we do, getting back to the NCAA, for me Pastner will need to have the program at the level of almost always making the NCAAT, maybe 3 out of 4 years, or it'll be time to move on (If we make the tournament next year we should have enough returning to continue the momentum the year after from a roster standpoint). </p><p></p><p>Now, certainly not everyone will agree with the timeframe. Even with the frustrations this year I think one reason I'm okay with that is I like our young core of sophs, Coleman, Kelly, Smith, Moore, that I think can definitely make up an NCAAT team core as juniors and sophomores if we can get the surrounding pieces in order. </p><p></p><p>But the biggest point that needs to be considered is I don't think we should make a move unless we are confident we can make a good hire. Many will disagree, but the current football hire has me doubting we're in a place that can compete in the market for an obvious upgrade. Now if it becomes like the end of Gregory's time here where there was just an obvious path of the roster getting worse then we might make a change just to prevent further damage, but I don't think we're at that point. I'd rather not make a "hope hire" like our last two basketball and football coaching hires have been. If that's what we'd get I'd rather just hope that Pastner finally comes around to his sense on the Princeton and tiny ball line ups.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lv20gt, post: 922166, member: 2299"] Here's the way I look/looked at it. With the state of the program when he was hired, and especially the state of the roster, it made sense to me to give him 5 years. At the end of that 5 years we had back to back winning conference records for the first time since lethal weapon 3 and won the ACC for the first time since Best. It was by no means perfect but my opinion is that first five year stretch was a success and for me it earned him a mini reset. Not of the full 5 years but for 3 with the idea being one year for the step back, one year for the building up, and then one year for a payoff. Last year was the step back, this year we'll see how we develop, but I doubt we'll fire him unless we completely crater. Whether we'll get the payoff next year remains to be seen. If we do, getting back to the NCAA, for me Pastner will need to have the program at the level of almost always making the NCAAT, maybe 3 out of 4 years, or it'll be time to move on (If we make the tournament next year we should have enough returning to continue the momentum the year after from a roster standpoint). Now, certainly not everyone will agree with the timeframe. Even with the frustrations this year I think one reason I'm okay with that is I like our young core of sophs, Coleman, Kelly, Smith, Moore, that I think can definitely make up an NCAAT team core as juniors and sophomores if we can get the surrounding pieces in order. But the biggest point that needs to be considered is I don't think we should make a move unless we are confident we can make a good hire. Many will disagree, but the current football hire has me doubting we're in a place that can compete in the market for an obvious upgrade. Now if it becomes like the end of Gregory's time here where there was just an obvious path of the roster getting worse then we might make a change just to prevent further damage, but I don't think we're at that point. I'd rather not make a "hope hire" like our last two basketball and football coaching hires have been. If that's what we'd get I'd rather just hope that Pastner finally comes around to his sense on the Princeton and tiny ball line ups. [/QUOTE]
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