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<blockquote data-quote="RamblinRed" data-source="post: 105935" data-attributes="member: 1776"><p>I think DTM has the right mindset here.</p><p>Last night was a very disappointing loss. Some of the negative issues that have been talked about over the first 3 games bit them last night - primarily not defending the perimeter well. GT also had too many TO's, though there were the first team to get Marquette really upside down in A/TO ratio this year. This team can still go 2-1 in this Tourney though it will feel like a hollow 2-1.</p><p>Gregory still has 25+ games to show what he can do. We'll see where this program is at the end of the year. </p><p>I don't agree that the admin doesn't care about basketball or doesn't want a winning program. Heck, I expect MBob expects to have a good program since he's always had one as an AD. I'd also agree that GT has been an underperforming program for the majority of its ACC existence (i've said so in the past). That hardly means it has to be nor is ACC wins and losses the only measure. </p><p></p><p>There does need to be an uptick in recruiting success as well. it should always start in GA and then expand outwards. </p><p>If you choose not to follow or support the program I get that, I stopped attending games the last couple of Hewitt's years. But i'm not there with this program yet. There have been positive as well as negative signs this season. I'm going to let it play out.</p><p></p><p>If you want to talk about coaching changes (which frankly is way too early), the way football has gone this year imo has put Gregory on thinner ice. It would be unlikely GT would take the financial hit of making 2 major coaching changes in one season. Since I expect Johnson to get an extension MBob will not have to worry about that for football for at least a couple of seasons, which means he will have a freer hand to make a change in basketball if that is what he feels needs to be done after the season. Also somewhat ironically this would be a more attractive job after this year than after the last couple of Hewitt seasons. A Good coach would actually have a team that could win right away with a likely lineup they would include </p><p>Heath/Jorgenson, Jackson, Hunt, Stephens, Jacobs, Mitchell with Lammers and Bolden as well. That is enough talent to be an NCAA team if they come together. He would also have alot of schollys to use in his first recruiting class allowing him to recruit his own players quickly.</p><p></p><p>Finally, I'm concerned about Jorgenson right now. I watched a fair bit of HS tape on him and right now he is not close to the same player. He was a really clutch shooter in HS. Good form, little low, but able to get his own shot and almost always made big shots late. Quicker than you would expect. It mentioned in the write up for last nights game that he was feeling soreness in the knee in the days leading up to the game. I'm starting to wonder if at some point they may have to simply shut him down and really let he leg get back to 100%. But that is something for the doctors, coaches and Travis to figure out. I think for right now they need to let Heath start and just see how Jorgenson is going game to game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RamblinRed, post: 105935, member: 1776"] I think DTM has the right mindset here. Last night was a very disappointing loss. Some of the negative issues that have been talked about over the first 3 games bit them last night - primarily not defending the perimeter well. GT also had too many TO's, though there were the first team to get Marquette really upside down in A/TO ratio this year. This team can still go 2-1 in this Tourney though it will feel like a hollow 2-1. Gregory still has 25+ games to show what he can do. We'll see where this program is at the end of the year. I don't agree that the admin doesn't care about basketball or doesn't want a winning program. Heck, I expect MBob expects to have a good program since he's always had one as an AD. I'd also agree that GT has been an underperforming program for the majority of its ACC existence (i've said so in the past). That hardly means it has to be nor is ACC wins and losses the only measure. There does need to be an uptick in recruiting success as well. it should always start in GA and then expand outwards. If you choose not to follow or support the program I get that, I stopped attending games the last couple of Hewitt's years. But i'm not there with this program yet. There have been positive as well as negative signs this season. I'm going to let it play out. If you want to talk about coaching changes (which frankly is way too early), the way football has gone this year imo has put Gregory on thinner ice. It would be unlikely GT would take the financial hit of making 2 major coaching changes in one season. Since I expect Johnson to get an extension MBob will not have to worry about that for football for at least a couple of seasons, which means he will have a freer hand to make a change in basketball if that is what he feels needs to be done after the season. Also somewhat ironically this would be a more attractive job after this year than after the last couple of Hewitt seasons. A Good coach would actually have a team that could win right away with a likely lineup they would include Heath/Jorgenson, Jackson, Hunt, Stephens, Jacobs, Mitchell with Lammers and Bolden as well. That is enough talent to be an NCAA team if they come together. He would also have alot of schollys to use in his first recruiting class allowing him to recruit his own players quickly. Finally, I'm concerned about Jorgenson right now. I watched a fair bit of HS tape on him and right now he is not close to the same player. He was a really clutch shooter in HS. Good form, little low, but able to get his own shot and almost always made big shots late. Quicker than you would expect. It mentioned in the write up for last nights game that he was feeling soreness in the knee in the days leading up to the game. I'm starting to wonder if at some point they may have to simply shut him down and really let he leg get back to 100%. But that is something for the doctors, coaches and Travis to figure out. I think for right now they need to let Heath start and just see how Jorgenson is going game to game. [/QUOTE]
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