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<blockquote data-quote="Mr. Keen" data-source="post: 105894" data-attributes="member: 1736"><p>Here are the facts - based on ACC regular season play. I know that a team's regular season record isn't the entire story of a season - but, it is a good gauge since it doesn't include the bogus out-of-conference cream puffs, nor does it include the post season which can often be just one and done.</p><p></p><p><u>Tech has been in the ACC 35 years - that is correct 35 years. Here is the regular season breakdown:</u></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Great Regular Seasons: 2 total - 1985-86 11-3 (Price-Sally senior year) 1995-96 13-3 (Marbury's year)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Good Regular Seasons: 1 total - 1984-85 9-5 (Price-Salley junior year)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2 Games over .500: 4 total seasons (1987-88 , 1988-89 1989-90 - Final 4 team, & 2003-4 - final 4 team). To me 2 games over .500 is not a "good" season. It is an average season.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">.500 Seasons: 7 total season</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Below .500: 21 seasons (including the first 2 under Dwayne Morrison)</li> </ul><p><u>Doing the math:</u></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Anyway you slice it - Tech has had 3 "good or better" regular seasons out of 35. (Mercy!!!) 3 for 35 - not a good batting average.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Tech (including this upcoming ACC Regular Season - for sure) has had 8 consecutive losing ACC regular season.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Going back to the last 4 years under Cremins - Tech has had 15 losing seasons out of the last 19 seasons. 3 .500 seasons. And 1 season over .500 (9-7 2003-04 Final 4 team).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Since 1989-90 season - Tech has been 3 games over .500 at any one time in the regular season ACC (outside of the 1995-96 Marbury season) - only once!!!! 1994-95 (Best-Forrest team was 6-3 - then finished 8-8).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In the last 19 seasons - Hold onto your hats!!! Tech has been 2 games over .500 at any one time in the regular season ACC - only twice. End of 2003-04 9-7 and one year (I think 2005-06) Tech started 2-0 (finished 4-12).</li> </ul><p>Any way you slice it - Tech has been - is - and seemingly always will be no good (Note: I wrote no good - I could have written something more apt) in the ACC regular season.</p><p></p><p>Don't even think of replying by stating - the regular season doesn't matter / only the NCAA Tournament matters - that is such a bogus excuse. Plus Tech has been pretty sub-par there - outside of 2003-04.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind: Duke, UNC, Louisville & Syracuse will always be better than Tech. Keep in mind that Pittsburgh, Virginia, Miami & Notre Dame have much stronger programs. Clemson & FSU & NC State are simply better. We are "on par" with Wake, BC & V-Tech. V-Tech just hired Buzz Williams - so they will be improving. Wake & BC - have new coaches - but, I don't know if they will equate to success.</p><p></p><p>Need more evidence? FSU & Clemson have beaten Tech a combined 19 times in a row!!! That would be an embarrassment in Football where those two programs are clearly at the top of the ACC in terms of talent. To lose 19 in a row to FSU & Clemson in basketball almost defies description.</p><p></p><p>It is a wonder anyone is still a fan!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mr. Keen, post: 105894, member: 1736"] Here are the facts - based on ACC regular season play. I know that a team's regular season record isn't the entire story of a season - but, it is a good gauge since it doesn't include the bogus out-of-conference cream puffs, nor does it include the post season which can often be just one and done. [U]Tech has been in the ACC 35 years - that is correct 35 years. Here is the regular season breakdown:[/U] [LIST] [*]Great Regular Seasons: 2 total - 1985-86 11-3 (Price-Sally senior year) 1995-96 13-3 (Marbury's year) [*]Good Regular Seasons: 1 total - 1984-85 9-5 (Price-Salley junior year) [*]2 Games over .500: 4 total seasons (1987-88 , 1988-89 1989-90 - Final 4 team, & 2003-4 - final 4 team). To me 2 games over .500 is not a "good" season. It is an average season. [*].500 Seasons: 7 total season [*]Below .500: 21 seasons (including the first 2 under Dwayne Morrison) [/LIST] [U]Doing the math:[/U] [LIST] [*]Anyway you slice it - Tech has had 3 "good or better" regular seasons out of 35. (Mercy!!!) 3 for 35 - not a good batting average. [*]Tech (including this upcoming ACC Regular Season - for sure) has had 8 consecutive losing ACC regular season. [*]Going back to the last 4 years under Cremins - Tech has had 15 losing seasons out of the last 19 seasons. 3 .500 seasons. And 1 season over .500 (9-7 2003-04 Final 4 team). [*]Since 1989-90 season - Tech has been 3 games over .500 at any one time in the regular season ACC (outside of the 1995-96 Marbury season) - only once!!!! 1994-95 (Best-Forrest team was 6-3 - then finished 8-8). [*]In the last 19 seasons - Hold onto your hats!!! Tech has been 2 games over .500 at any one time in the regular season ACC - only twice. End of 2003-04 9-7 and one year (I think 2005-06) Tech started 2-0 (finished 4-12). [/LIST] Any way you slice it - Tech has been - is - and seemingly always will be no good (Note: I wrote no good - I could have written something more apt) in the ACC regular season. Don't even think of replying by stating - the regular season doesn't matter / only the NCAA Tournament matters - that is such a bogus excuse. Plus Tech has been pretty sub-par there - outside of 2003-04. Keep in mind: Duke, UNC, Louisville & Syracuse will always be better than Tech. Keep in mind that Pittsburgh, Virginia, Miami & Notre Dame have much stronger programs. Clemson & FSU & NC State are simply better. We are "on par" with Wake, BC & V-Tech. V-Tech just hired Buzz Williams - so they will be improving. Wake & BC - have new coaches - but, I don't know if they will equate to success. Need more evidence? FSU & Clemson have beaten Tech a combined 19 times in a row!!! That would be an embarrassment in Football where those two programs are clearly at the top of the ACC in terms of talent. To lose 19 in a row to FSU & Clemson in basketball almost defies description. It is a wonder anyone is still a fan! [/QUOTE]
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