What If?

Dinner_Jacket

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What if Philo had played just a little in the UGA and Bowl game?
Would a downfield passing threat have changed the outcome of our final two games?
I believe the UGA outcome would have been different and I believe we would have never had to go into overtime with just 60-70 more passing yards.
Vanderbilt beat us in the trenches. They were able to load the box and not worry in the slightest that Tech would throw the ball. The presence of
Philo would have definitely helped spread Vanderbilts defense out which could have eventually helped open up some big running plays.

What say you?
 

Towaliga

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What if Philo had played just a little in the UGA and Bowl game?
Would a downfield passing threat have changed the outcome of our final two games?
I believe the UGA outcome would have been different and I believe we would have never had to go into overtime with just 60-70 more passing yards.
Vanderbilt beat us in the trenches. They were able to load the box and not worry in the slightest that Tech would throw the ball. The presence of
Philo would have definitely helped spread Vanderbilts defense out which could have eventually helped open up some big running plays.

What say you?
Maybe. Maybe not. (I’m glad I can share my insights with you)
 

cpf2001

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The all around ability to pass and run by HK was the entire engine of the offense, throw a true freshman at the best defense he’s ever seen for a few snaps and you think that gets better? When King threw for 300 yards already and added 110 on the ground. What additional wrinkle do you think might’ve been unlocked that wasn’t already working that night under King? Philo has looked EXTREMELY promising but the offense as a whole hadn’t yet clicked to the point of regularly finding the end zone.

Let’s stop trying to replace our QB who put up 413 total yards and 5 TDs on UGA. Even if you toss the OT TDs and yards out, his performance was stellar.
 
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bobongo

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What if Philo had played just a little in the UGA and Bowl game?
Would a downfield passing threat have changed the outcome of our final two games?
I believe the UGA outcome would have been different and I believe we would have never had to go into overtime with just 60-70 more passing yards.
Vanderbilt beat us in the trenches. They were able to load the box and not worry in the slightest that Tech would throw the ball. The presence of
Philo would have definitely helped spread Vanderbilts defense out which could have eventually helped open up some big running plays.

What say you?
I thought Philo would be brought in on a few series in the Vandy game just as a change up from King, but it didn't happen. We'll never know whether it would have made a difference.
Against Ugag King was doing so well and an appearance by Philo would have burned his red shirt. Those factors obviated his appearance in the game.
 

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I'm going to have to start putting some of you on ignore if these types of posts keep popping up. Questioning whether we should have put in a true freshmen backup qb with a 51% completion percentage on 74 attempts and more interceptions than passing TDs this season when King had an absolutely outstanding performance against ugag is ridiculous.
 

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The all around ability to pass and run by HK was the entire engine of the offense, throw a true freshman at the best defense he’s ever seen for a few snaps and you think that gets better? When King threw for 300 yards already and added 110 on the ground. What additional wrinkle do you think might’ve been unlocked that wasn’t already working that night under King? Philo has looked EXTREMELY promising but the offense as a whole hadn’t yet clicked to the point of regularly finding the end zone.

Let’s stop trying to replace our QB who put up 413 total yards and 5 TDs on UGA. Even if you toss the OT TDs and yards out, his performance was stellar.

What if we just pass more in 25 so the offense is better suited to both qb? We had pyron ready and he battled ND but was injured to point he cohld not go at NCSt.
Philo was deemed not to be a run threat so King came in for runs only. N
I think King and philo will be great together in 25 AND AS KING SAID IN A POST GAME- PHILO IS GOING TO BE A BALLER.



UGA WAS PLACED IN CFP AS #4.
NCSt had a poorly rated pass defense.

King and offense had us up 14 with 5 minutes to go. So what if we didnt go to prevent defense? We could have lost like we did. But what if we kept the hammer down and won?? Legendary coaching job.
 

Dinner_Jacket

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What if……. We had developed more depth on the defensive side of the ball? The offense was able to get leads in a few different games this year only to see a worn out defense give up multiple scores in the 4th quarter.
 

iceeater1969

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What if……. We had developed more depth on the defensive side of the ball? The offense was able to get leads in a few different games this year only to see a worn out defense give up multiple scores in the 4th quarter.
Can you give more to gtaa and nil so we can keep de like ivy and kennard? Its not really a depth problem . Its a quality stsrter problem on defense.
 

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Why anyone contributes real money to NIL is beyond me. There is no tax benefit. There is no true marketing benefit. There is no guarantee that the player will actually play for your team multiple years. That money is gone, gone. It is not an investment in the future of your program, it's a roll of the dice on an instant fix rather than an investment in the future. Look at Romello Height. He came in and helped us be okay 1 year. He's now gone. We got nothing really tangible from his stay at Tech except that some younger guys didn't get game reps to prepare them for next year. I do not like this revolving door. I get it that we're going to play the game, but, to me, you're not investing in the future of the program, you're throwing your money (big money) away.

I love GT, all aspects of the school, and I contribute both financially and in other ways. But, NIL is not, and will never be, one of those ways. I'm torn about how I feel about the current state and the direction of college football.
 

Root4GT

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Why anyone contributes real money to NIL is beyond me. There is no tax benefit. There is no true marketing benefit. There is no guarantee that the player will actually play for your team multiple years. That money is gone, gone. It is not an investment in the future of your program, it's a roll of the dice on an instant fix rather than an investment in the future. Look at Romello Height. He came in and helped us be okay 1 year. He's now gone. We got nothing really tangible from his stay at Tech except that some younger guys didn't get game reps to prepare them for next year. I do not like this revolving door. I get it that we're going to play the game, but, to me, you're not investing in the future of the program, you're throwing your money (big money) away.

I love GT, all aspects of the school, and I contribute both financially and in other ways. But, NIL is not, and will never be, one of those ways. I'm torn about how I feel about the current state and the direction of college football.
Seemed to work for Ohio State this year.
 

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We pretty much give all that we are able to give now. We need a large local business commitment to get some “real” money in the GTAA & NIL buckets!
I hate the wild west that the college presidents club allowed college football to become. But it is what it is. In acc 7 years ago Gt was near bottom in donations and ticket sales. Also nesr top of ncaa in debt.

TAM has 3 times the alumni and they donate at 3 times the gt average.

What i do love is we have a fantastic Prez who knows that ga tech students absolutely need to have the positive and fun outlet that excellent athletic contests provide.

We must continue to rise from 100-0 ashes. We demonstrated in athens 24 that gt is a force. As this wild west sorts itself out, i will donate with finger over my nose. I even donated when TFP and TFPrez was here. I am sure not throttling back now.


Your point about business being involved is a good one. If we win in 25 26 plus fix the bench seats, i expect that we will see a big turn over of old money to new money. If we are real lucky that will be the time sanity returns.
 

Dinner_Jacket

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We actually as a family pool money and send it under one name which worked out as we wished with the A-T Fund (ie: same season ticket seats etc).
We have Tech graduates in the family from 1958 (the originator of the pool) a 1979 grad, 1983 grad all the way up to my youngest, a 2017 grad.
Over the years it just worked out better for all of us to have our 1958 graduate as the specific donor (again with ticket choice, bowl tickets and such).
Last year for the first time we split the pool money up and donated to a few different funds. This also split us up a little bit in that the young folks want to hit the NIL bucket hard and heavy while the older generation wants to support education over waterpolo😏
Personally, I just want to support kids with actual GA Tech loyalty. Unfortunately, it feels like the loyalty now is just for the $$
 

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Why anyone contributes real money to NIL is beyond me. There is no tax benefit. There is no true marketing benefit. There is no guarantee that the player will actually play for your team multiple years. That money is gone, gone. It is not an investment in the future of your program, it's a roll of the dice on an instant fix rather than an investment in the future. Look at Romello Height. He came in and helped us be okay 1 year. He's now gone. We got nothing really tangible from his stay at Tech except that some younger guys didn't get game reps to prepare them for next year. I do not like this revolving door. I get it that we're going to play the game, but, to me, you're not investing in the future of the program, you're throwing your money (big money) away.

I love GT, all aspects of the school, and I contribute both financially and in other ways. But, NIL is not, and will never be, one of those ways. I'm torn about how I feel about the current state and the direction of college football.
So...you are saying that paying NIL money is kind of like owning a boat? Keep pouring money into it and hope to enjoy those few stellar moments that might come from the "investment."
 

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What if Philo had played just a little in the UGA and Bowl game?
Would a downfield passing threat have changed the outcome of our final two games?
I believe the UGA outcome would have been different and I believe we would have never had to go into overtime with just 60-70 more passing yards.
Vanderbilt beat us in the trenches. They were able to load the box and not worry in the slightest that Tech would throw the ball. The presence of
Philo would have definitely helped spread Vanderbilts defense out which could have eventually helped open up some big running plays.

What say you?
idk besides the one pick in the bowl game King looked great slinging the rock.
 

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Why anyone contributes real money to NIL is beyond me. There is no tax benefit. There is no true marketing benefit. There is no guarantee that the player will actually play for your team multiple years. That money is gone, gone. It is not an investment in the future of your program, it's a roll of the dice on an instant fix rather than an investment in the future. Look at Romello Height. He came in and helped us be okay 1 year. He's now gone. We got nothing really tangible from his stay at Tech except that some younger guys didn't get game reps to prepare them for next year. I do not like this revolving door. I get it that we're going to play the game, but, to me, you're not investing in the future of the program, you're throwing your money (big money) away.

I love GT, all aspects of the school, and I contribute both financially and in other ways. But, NIL is not, and will never be, one of those ways. I'm torn about how I feel about the current state and the direction of college football.
While I don’t fault anyone at all for refusing to contribute to The Tech Way NIL fund, I consider it to be table stakes in the battle to remain relevant. Thus I began making modest contributions last year in hopes that it would help sustain Tech’s upward momentum in football. If the predictions around revenue sharing starting this year are correct, I plan to redirect all my NIL donations back to the GTAA. NIL will likely still be a factor in the market for the blue chips, but my contributions won’t move the needle there.
 

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While I don’t fault anyone at all for refusing to contribute to The Tech Way NIL fund, I consider it to be table stakes in the battle to remain relevant. Thus I began making modest contributions last year in hopes that it would help sustain Tech’s upward momentum in football. If the predictions around revenue sharing starting this year are correct, I plan to redirect all my NIL donations back to the GTAA. NIL will likely still be a factor in the market for the blue chips, but my contributions won’t move the needle there.
I'm not criticizing anyone for making that choice. I just don't see how the big-money donors can justify it. There's no tax incentive and if they're not getting a marketing benefit from their $$, then I don't see how it will be sustainable. Philanthropic people want to see their donations work towards something sustainable. Going back year after year for big money to give to some kid for a year...I don't see it.

Note that I said "real money," meaning big donors.
 
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