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<blockquote data-quote="vamosjackets" data-source="post: 385467" data-attributes="member: 216"><p>I'm not sure how you got there, but I agree with your conclusion. </p><p>Actually, I agree with a lot of what you said with a one major disagreement. Entertainment should play 0% into the decision making of football!! And, your final statement seems to bear that out, but it seems to contradict a little of what you wrote earlier about football being entertainment. Football is not entertainment. It's competition. The game existed before fans decided to gather around and watch it. The only reason fans decided to gather and watch in higher and higher numbers is because of the incredible competition. The competition didn't decide to happen because there was a gathering of fans. That HAS to be kept in mind. The second we (meaning T.Stan or CPJ) start making decisions for the sake of fans is the second we completely self-destruct. Every decision should be made for a singular purpose: WIN. (With an undergirding foundation of morality that won't be compromised for anything)</p><p>And, you said it in the end. Just win! </p><p></p><p>I feel like the CPJ detractors use losing as an excuse to argue for what they really want: entertainment, self-pride, recruiting warm-fuzzies, self-importance, outside perception, etc. I think there may be exceptions to this, but this is the general feeling I get from that crowd. Usually logical progression of argument and stats to support it are not present in those arguments. It all seems to be mostly emotional, which is driven from some form of self-pleasing.</p><p></p><p>In general the CPJ supporters are arguing from the standpoint of winning. Recruiting, entertainment, outside perception are all secondary factors to just plain winning. The only time they enter the conversation is when it can help support the bottom line - winning. We have seen the offense kill it, we have seen it be as consistent or more consistent in doing so than any other offense out there - and that's with GT's student-driven personnel. That's why we want it. Because it's just plain good, and the stats and logic are on our side. And, I should admit that this side is self-pleasing as well, it is just pleased more by winning than these other factors. And, that's why, in general, we just want to change what we're not good at, and haven't been good at yet with CPJ - our defense. Don't get rid of an offense that has already shown it can be in the elite levels of success at GT with the personnel GT already gets. If we get a defense that is as good as our offense, we're there; we're at the top of college football - maybe the very top. That's all that matters. </p><p></p><p>To echo your words. All that to come to your same conclusion: Just win.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vamosjackets, post: 385467, member: 216"] I'm not sure how you got there, but I agree with your conclusion. Actually, I agree with a lot of what you said with a one major disagreement. Entertainment should play 0% into the decision making of football!! And, your final statement seems to bear that out, but it seems to contradict a little of what you wrote earlier about football being entertainment. Football is not entertainment. It's competition. The game existed before fans decided to gather around and watch it. The only reason fans decided to gather and watch in higher and higher numbers is because of the incredible competition. The competition didn't decide to happen because there was a gathering of fans. That HAS to be kept in mind. The second we (meaning T.Stan or CPJ) start making decisions for the sake of fans is the second we completely self-destruct. Every decision should be made for a singular purpose: WIN. (With an undergirding foundation of morality that won't be compromised for anything) And, you said it in the end. Just win! I feel like the CPJ detractors use losing as an excuse to argue for what they really want: entertainment, self-pride, recruiting warm-fuzzies, self-importance, outside perception, etc. I think there may be exceptions to this, but this is the general feeling I get from that crowd. Usually logical progression of argument and stats to support it are not present in those arguments. It all seems to be mostly emotional, which is driven from some form of self-pleasing. In general the CPJ supporters are arguing from the standpoint of winning. Recruiting, entertainment, outside perception are all secondary factors to just plain winning. The only time they enter the conversation is when it can help support the bottom line - winning. We have seen the offense kill it, we have seen it be as consistent or more consistent in doing so than any other offense out there - and that's with GT's student-driven personnel. That's why we want it. Because it's just plain good, and the stats and logic are on our side. And, I should admit that this side is self-pleasing as well, it is just pleased more by winning than these other factors. And, that's why, in general, we just want to change what we're not good at, and haven't been good at yet with CPJ - our defense. Don't get rid of an offense that has already shown it can be in the elite levels of success at GT with the personnel GT already gets. If we get a defense that is as good as our offense, we're there; we're at the top of college football - maybe the very top. That's all that matters. To echo your words. All that to come to your same conclusion: Just win. [/QUOTE]
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