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<blockquote data-quote="RamblinRed" data-source="post: 393588" data-attributes="member: 1776"><p>Thoughts.</p><p>This game went about as i thought it might, not as I hoped it would. UVA has held 2/3 of their opponents under 55 points this year.</p><p>There was no point in the 2nd half where I thought GT had any realistic shot of winning. Any remote chance ending when Josh missed the layup after cutting it to 10 the previous possession.</p><p>UVA plays very well and both ends of the court and seldom does stuff to beat itself. It' sort of like playing a boa constrictor, they just keep tightening around you, willing to run their offense and their defense for 30 seconds at a time.</p><p></p><p>Lammers should have been pulled earlier, he was not good tonight. He was good defensively in the first half, but after that was a negative. In the second half UVA consistently got a guard matched on Ben and then had the guard take Ben off the dribble for layups. Was completely off on offense all night and not really looking for his shot much.</p><p></p><p>AD should have played more. Both with Ben and in place of him. After Ben missed the short jumper badly in the second half he should have been pulled. I didn't see Ben make a single jumper in either pre-game warmups (where I was only watching him a little) and half time warmups (where I watched him alot). AD plays with alot of energy which this team needed. I was annoyed with his foul at the end of the first half, but it really had no effect on the game. Would have been 8 instead of 9 pt game. That was a huge shot though. 5 pt game at halftime against UVA is a very different game than 9.</p><p></p><p>Josh was taken out of the game by UVA's defense. He also seemed a little passive. Their man defense on him was really strong and when he tried to drive he seldom got a good shot.</p><p></p><p>i thought Alvarado played pretty well for facing UVA's defense the first time. He didn't shoot well, but he had 5 assists to 3 TO, 6 rbs and 3 steals. </p><p></p><p>Jackson had a solid game. He is one player on the team that is comfortable with off balance type shots that UVA forces you to take.</p><p></p><p>Nice to see Curtis hit the threes. One was from really deep. They also used him to bring up the ball alot to relieve pressure off of Jose. He was really beat at the end of the game. He should have played fewer min. I don't think he is quite 100% back in terms of conditioning but he'll get there. He needs to move better without the ball to give himself more shot opportunities. Something he will likely improve on as he gains experience. He's one of our better players in terms of not making dumb mistakes.</p><p></p><p>I'll go with Ivy here on one thing he has been mentioning. Last 3 min we should have played Wright and/or Cole. The game was over, let them have a few min at that point against high level competition.</p><p></p><p>UVA frankly played harder (and better) than GT did last night. They consistently won the 50/50 balls. The first half was one of the most impressive displays of defensive basketball i've seen. At the under 8 min time out it was 13-7 with both teams shooting under 25% and neither team really able to do anything against the other teams set defense.</p><p></p><p>I'll also note that the individual I went to the game with mentioned before the game that none of our guys seemed to be hitting their shots in warmups. UVA had a large contingent there - maybe 30-35% of the arena.</p><p></p><p>Some notes from Pastner's post game comments on the radio.</p><p>He was bitterly disappointed about the TO.</p><p>He mentioned that we will get old and stay old, but that will only happen with 3-4 recruiting classes, you can't wave a magic wand and make it happen.</p><p>For this team to win it has to do 3 things - limit TO, make FT, play hard (win 50/50 balls, outrebound the opponent). Didn't do any of those things well tonight.</p><p>He was pretty hard on Lammers. Said it is all in between his ears now and we need him to have a breakout game as we need him on offense.</p><p>Based on his comments it was pretty clear that the #1 goal of the defense last night was to not allow UVA to go off from 3 (they had 3 guys shooting 40%+ from three in ACC Games coming in). Held them to 23%, so mission accomplished there. But in the second half they consistently hit mid range jumpers as well as getting those layups. my comment - you always have to give up something on defense. We gave up mid range jumpers and they hit them from about the 8 min mark of the first half on. GT did a really good job on Hall and a decent job on Guy. Hunter killed us. Jerome also played well.</p><p></p><p></p><p>FWIW, tracking the efficiency rankings of the players in just ACC games and comparing it to last year.</p><p>Okogie is playing slightly better than last year, despite the poor outing last night. His efficiency numbers are in the range of an 2nd or 3rd team All-ACC player.</p><p></p><p>Lammers efficiency numbers are way down from last year. Roughly 60% of his performance last year. He is avg just 8.8 ppg in ACC games shooting 32% FG, 50% FT. He is avg 10.8 rpg and over 3 bpg which is good. His asst:to ratio is also far worse. Basically he is playing well defensively and horribly offensively. His efficiency % are roughly equivalent with a run of the mill ACC starter. He needs to do far better or GT will not win many more ACC games.</p><p></p><p>Jackson's efficiency numbers are slightly better than last year and in line with a high level ACC starter. RB numbers are much better than last year.</p><p></p><p>Alvarado's efficiency numbers are currently about 80% of Heath's last year. He scores more, but not more efficiently than Heath did and his assist and TO numbers are worse. I expect as the season goes on and he adjusts to the level of play that he will likely match if not exceed Heath's efficiency numbers.</p><p></p><p>AD has been the most pleasant surprise so far. His efficiency numbers are actually quite close to Q from last year. You can make a strong case he should be playing more min. I'd argue for about 8 more mpg (if he can keep from fouling out) with this split pretty evenly between spelling Lammers at 5 and playing more at 4. 7.6 ppg, 5.8 rpg, shooting 64% FG in only 23 mpg. His efficiency numbers are those of a ACC starter. </p><p></p><p>Haywood's and Alston's efficiency numbers are getting pretty close to each other and I expect Haywood will pass Alston as the season goes on. Both have efficiency numbers similar to a standard ACC backup.</p><p></p><p>Comparing this year's team to last year (both largely used 7 man rotations - especially after AD got injured last year)</p><p>Josh is playing a little better than last year as is Jackson.</p><p>Lammers is playing alot worse.</p><p>Alvarado is playing below the level of Heath, but I think that is likely to change as the season goes on.</p><p>AD is playing close to the efficiency level as Q, but plays more than 10 min less per game (and likely couldn't play close to Q's min as he would foul out).</p><p>Haywood and Alston overall are stronger as the current 6 and 7th efficiency players than Moore and Heyward were last year and I think Curtis in particular is likely to see his numbers get better as he gets in condition and more experience.</p><p></p><p>Basically you could say GT is getting slightly better play at the 2 and 3 compared to last year. Get slightly worse play at the 1 (but hopefully that will improve), slightly worse play at the 4 (which is actually a positive as that was expected to be the biggest issue this year) and much worse play at the 5 (which is a big negative surprise). Bench is roughly the same.</p><p></p><p>Whether this team can be as good or better than last year's team (regardless of final record) is largely dependent on how much Jose and Curt can improve as they gain experience and can Lammers start playing anywhere near the level of last year.</p><p></p><p>One last note, the 3 top 3-pt shooters on the team in ACC games so far are Josh, Curtis and Jose. They have the 3 best percentages and account for 85% of the made 3.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RamblinRed, post: 393588, member: 1776"] Thoughts. This game went about as i thought it might, not as I hoped it would. UVA has held 2/3 of their opponents under 55 points this year. There was no point in the 2nd half where I thought GT had any realistic shot of winning. Any remote chance ending when Josh missed the layup after cutting it to 10 the previous possession. UVA plays very well and both ends of the court and seldom does stuff to beat itself. It' sort of like playing a boa constrictor, they just keep tightening around you, willing to run their offense and their defense for 30 seconds at a time. Lammers should have been pulled earlier, he was not good tonight. He was good defensively in the first half, but after that was a negative. In the second half UVA consistently got a guard matched on Ben and then had the guard take Ben off the dribble for layups. Was completely off on offense all night and not really looking for his shot much. AD should have played more. Both with Ben and in place of him. After Ben missed the short jumper badly in the second half he should have been pulled. I didn't see Ben make a single jumper in either pre-game warmups (where I was only watching him a little) and half time warmups (where I watched him alot). AD plays with alot of energy which this team needed. I was annoyed with his foul at the end of the first half, but it really had no effect on the game. Would have been 8 instead of 9 pt game. That was a huge shot though. 5 pt game at halftime against UVA is a very different game than 9. Josh was taken out of the game by UVA's defense. He also seemed a little passive. Their man defense on him was really strong and when he tried to drive he seldom got a good shot. i thought Alvarado played pretty well for facing UVA's defense the first time. He didn't shoot well, but he had 5 assists to 3 TO, 6 rbs and 3 steals. Jackson had a solid game. He is one player on the team that is comfortable with off balance type shots that UVA forces you to take. Nice to see Curtis hit the threes. One was from really deep. They also used him to bring up the ball alot to relieve pressure off of Jose. He was really beat at the end of the game. He should have played fewer min. I don't think he is quite 100% back in terms of conditioning but he'll get there. He needs to move better without the ball to give himself more shot opportunities. Something he will likely improve on as he gains experience. He's one of our better players in terms of not making dumb mistakes. I'll go with Ivy here on one thing he has been mentioning. Last 3 min we should have played Wright and/or Cole. The game was over, let them have a few min at that point against high level competition. UVA frankly played harder (and better) than GT did last night. They consistently won the 50/50 balls. The first half was one of the most impressive displays of defensive basketball i've seen. At the under 8 min time out it was 13-7 with both teams shooting under 25% and neither team really able to do anything against the other teams set defense. I'll also note that the individual I went to the game with mentioned before the game that none of our guys seemed to be hitting their shots in warmups. UVA had a large contingent there - maybe 30-35% of the arena. Some notes from Pastner's post game comments on the radio. He was bitterly disappointed about the TO. He mentioned that we will get old and stay old, but that will only happen with 3-4 recruiting classes, you can't wave a magic wand and make it happen. For this team to win it has to do 3 things - limit TO, make FT, play hard (win 50/50 balls, outrebound the opponent). Didn't do any of those things well tonight. He was pretty hard on Lammers. Said it is all in between his ears now and we need him to have a breakout game as we need him on offense. Based on his comments it was pretty clear that the #1 goal of the defense last night was to not allow UVA to go off from 3 (they had 3 guys shooting 40%+ from three in ACC Games coming in). Held them to 23%, so mission accomplished there. But in the second half they consistently hit mid range jumpers as well as getting those layups. my comment - you always have to give up something on defense. We gave up mid range jumpers and they hit them from about the 8 min mark of the first half on. GT did a really good job on Hall and a decent job on Guy. Hunter killed us. Jerome also played well. FWIW, tracking the efficiency rankings of the players in just ACC games and comparing it to last year. Okogie is playing slightly better than last year, despite the poor outing last night. His efficiency numbers are in the range of an 2nd or 3rd team All-ACC player. Lammers efficiency numbers are way down from last year. Roughly 60% of his performance last year. He is avg just 8.8 ppg in ACC games shooting 32% FG, 50% FT. He is avg 10.8 rpg and over 3 bpg which is good. His asst:to ratio is also far worse. Basically he is playing well defensively and horribly offensively. His efficiency % are roughly equivalent with a run of the mill ACC starter. He needs to do far better or GT will not win many more ACC games. Jackson's efficiency numbers are slightly better than last year and in line with a high level ACC starter. RB numbers are much better than last year. Alvarado's efficiency numbers are currently about 80% of Heath's last year. He scores more, but not more efficiently than Heath did and his assist and TO numbers are worse. I expect as the season goes on and he adjusts to the level of play that he will likely match if not exceed Heath's efficiency numbers. AD has been the most pleasant surprise so far. His efficiency numbers are actually quite close to Q from last year. You can make a strong case he should be playing more min. I'd argue for about 8 more mpg (if he can keep from fouling out) with this split pretty evenly between spelling Lammers at 5 and playing more at 4. 7.6 ppg, 5.8 rpg, shooting 64% FG in only 23 mpg. His efficiency numbers are those of a ACC starter. Haywood's and Alston's efficiency numbers are getting pretty close to each other and I expect Haywood will pass Alston as the season goes on. Both have efficiency numbers similar to a standard ACC backup. Comparing this year's team to last year (both largely used 7 man rotations - especially after AD got injured last year) Josh is playing a little better than last year as is Jackson. Lammers is playing alot worse. Alvarado is playing below the level of Heath, but I think that is likely to change as the season goes on. AD is playing close to the efficiency level as Q, but plays more than 10 min less per game (and likely couldn't play close to Q's min as he would foul out). Haywood and Alston overall are stronger as the current 6 and 7th efficiency players than Moore and Heyward were last year and I think Curtis in particular is likely to see his numbers get better as he gets in condition and more experience. Basically you could say GT is getting slightly better play at the 2 and 3 compared to last year. Get slightly worse play at the 1 (but hopefully that will improve), slightly worse play at the 4 (which is actually a positive as that was expected to be the biggest issue this year) and much worse play at the 5 (which is a big negative surprise). Bench is roughly the same. Whether this team can be as good or better than last year's team (regardless of final record) is largely dependent on how much Jose and Curt can improve as they gain experience and can Lammers start playing anywhere near the level of last year. One last note, the 3 top 3-pt shooters on the team in ACC games so far are Josh, Curtis and Jose. They have the 3 best percentages and account for 85% of the made 3. [/QUOTE]
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