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<blockquote data-quote="jacketup" data-source="post: 884901" data-attributes="member: 630"><p>But Cooper wasn't healthy. So where was the depth? Charlie Clark wasn't highly recruited and wasn't a P5 player. Williams was forced to start as a freshman because we had no options--he wasn't ready to play then. That's all the proof you need that the last staff did not leave adequate numbers of quality OL behind. William Lay, a walk on, has gotten significant playing time because of no depth.</p><p></p><p>There were Johnson OL recruits on the team the last 3 years that could never break into the line up, even as reserves, and even with our lack of depth. The two guys that Johnson had commitments from in 2019 weren't P5 Players and therefore weren't signed by Collins. Contrary to your statement, the depth has not been there--particularly at OT--and still isn't. You are correct that Collins had to go into the portal, but he was getting one year grads (he got 2 years out of Hoss) but that wasn't helping depth--that was plugging holes. </p><p></p><p>The biggest difference between college teams is OL, and it's not easy to go out and get 5 quality linemen in a year. You can't build depth in 2 recruiting years on the OL starting from little more than scratch--and that's where we were last year. Again, look at who played against UGA--and even where they played--Hoss was at tackle, and he is not a P5 tackle. Franklin at center, a true Fr who had played very little. Lay at guard. </p><p></p><p>The last staff could get by with FCS type players running that option offense, but 280 pound tackles can't pass block. Go back and look at the 2018 depth chart and look at the size of those guys. Friedgen didn't want an OL that was less than 6'4" and he knows a bit about OL. Johnson's teams (after Gailey's recruits left) were never good at passing--and that's one big reason.</p><p></p><p>Attrition and injuries happen on the OL. OL aren't ready to play as freshmen with very few exceptions. Every all ACC player last year down to third team--15 guys-- was at least a third year player. Except for grad transfers, Minihan (hurt at Miami) and Lay (a walk on) we didn't have any third year OL, and that's completely on the last staff that signed lots of A backs but never enough linemen. But again, the option will allow FCS quality players. Of course, the option presents other issues, which is why no P5 teams use it. </p><p></p><p>My coaching criticism is that Key worked them too hard in practice after the season began, resulting in injuries. A guy who isn't hurt--even if he is inexperced-- is generally better than the same guy who is hurt. Friedgen backed off after the season began because we never had great depth then either. This isn't Alabama Brent.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jacketup, post: 884901, member: 630"] But Cooper wasn't healthy. So where was the depth? Charlie Clark wasn't highly recruited and wasn't a P5 player. Williams was forced to start as a freshman because we had no options--he wasn't ready to play then. That's all the proof you need that the last staff did not leave adequate numbers of quality OL behind. William Lay, a walk on, has gotten significant playing time because of no depth. There were Johnson OL recruits on the team the last 3 years that could never break into the line up, even as reserves, and even with our lack of depth. The two guys that Johnson had commitments from in 2019 weren't P5 Players and therefore weren't signed by Collins. Contrary to your statement, the depth has not been there--particularly at OT--and still isn't. You are correct that Collins had to go into the portal, but he was getting one year grads (he got 2 years out of Hoss) but that wasn't helping depth--that was plugging holes. The biggest difference between college teams is OL, and it's not easy to go out and get 5 quality linemen in a year. You can't build depth in 2 recruiting years on the OL starting from little more than scratch--and that's where we were last year. Again, look at who played against UGA--and even where they played--Hoss was at tackle, and he is not a P5 tackle. Franklin at center, a true Fr who had played very little. Lay at guard. The last staff could get by with FCS type players running that option offense, but 280 pound tackles can't pass block. Go back and look at the 2018 depth chart and look at the size of those guys. Friedgen didn't want an OL that was less than 6'4" and he knows a bit about OL. Johnson's teams (after Gailey's recruits left) were never good at passing--and that's one big reason. Attrition and injuries happen on the OL. OL aren't ready to play as freshmen with very few exceptions. Every all ACC player last year down to third team--15 guys-- was at least a third year player. Except for grad transfers, Minihan (hurt at Miami) and Lay (a walk on) we didn't have any third year OL, and that's completely on the last staff that signed lots of A backs but never enough linemen. But again, the option will allow FCS quality players. Of course, the option presents other issues, which is why no P5 teams use it. My coaching criticism is that Key worked them too hard in practice after the season began, resulting in injuries. A guy who isn't hurt--even if he is inexperced-- is generally better than the same guy who is hurt. Friedgen backed off after the season began because we never had great depth then either. This isn't Alabama Brent. [/QUOTE]
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