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<blockquote data-quote="Pointer" data-source="post: 804604" data-attributes="member: 4719"><p>I get that and that's a logical view. I always appreciate your rational and thoughtful approaches to your responses. But if you look at GT's line from 2019 and last year, most of the players really only played in the old offense for a year or two. If you look at bc's line, it was pretty much the same thing with a couple of freshmen (I think true freshmen sprinkled in) as well. Then if you go and look at their ranking, height, weight, you'll see that those were also pretty similar. If you look at our line least year, there's even less players who had significant time in the old system. Further If you remember, the last few years before CPJ left, we were getting bigger and bigger on O line. I think I'm also right in saying we certainly had the pieces this last season to have better than the 123rd offensive line in the country (not saying we should have been top 25, but come on). What is also interesting is that the staff has come in and claimed they want to run ""NFL offense and defense" and "run plays that take advantage of players strengths", it kind of has me scratching my head as to what the hell we are doing then if they truly believe (which I don't) that the jimmies we have are so bad and completely inept at blocking the way we are asking. There's a disconnect here between what is said, and done, as well as truths and misinformation regarding players abilities.</p><p>It just stinks of the same ideology currently in the pros of blowing it all up to start from scratch, which if you go look at said pro teams, it usually does not work out. Teams like the Patriots, Miami Heat, Spurs... They want to continue winning. They take their lumps in down years, but they get back to competitive form much more rapidly than teams who blow it up and start from scratch. Not saying that they don't change direction or change their style of play or whatever, they have. The difference is that they have done it more gradually with the key ideology of always trying to be the most competitive they possibly could be along the way, instead of the mindset of we're welcome losing now, but one day when everything is perfect we'll win. I'm sorry, I can't get behind that. I was at least happy to see cgc angry towards the end of the year, at least there's some sign of wanting to win. I'm just tired of all the excuses. </p><p></p><p>I think some fans see that it's not so much the players not fitting what we are trying to do (not saying this is not the case, because it somewhat is) but it's also, maybe moreso, the staff generally not having much experience at this level. I'm just so tried of constantly hearing the excuses of it's all the players fault, we didn't have this and we didn't have that. Maybe our coaches weren't all ready for this level yet? That's fine too because we have a certain budget and we can afford what we can afford. That may mean we need more patience to get them up to speed, which is also fine. Two things however, continuing to have less than 5 win seasons should be unacceptable and people need to quit blaming the whole situation on players because it's a lame excuse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pointer, post: 804604, member: 4719"] I get that and that's a logical view. I always appreciate your rational and thoughtful approaches to your responses. But if you look at GT's line from 2019 and last year, most of the players really only played in the old offense for a year or two. If you look at bc's line, it was pretty much the same thing with a couple of freshmen (I think true freshmen sprinkled in) as well. Then if you go and look at their ranking, height, weight, you'll see that those were also pretty similar. If you look at our line least year, there's even less players who had significant time in the old system. Further If you remember, the last few years before CPJ left, we were getting bigger and bigger on O line. I think I'm also right in saying we certainly had the pieces this last season to have better than the 123rd offensive line in the country (not saying we should have been top 25, but come on). What is also interesting is that the staff has come in and claimed they want to run ""NFL offense and defense" and "run plays that take advantage of players strengths", it kind of has me scratching my head as to what the hell we are doing then if they truly believe (which I don't) that the jimmies we have are so bad and completely inept at blocking the way we are asking. There's a disconnect here between what is said, and done, as well as truths and misinformation regarding players abilities. It just stinks of the same ideology currently in the pros of blowing it all up to start from scratch, which if you go look at said pro teams, it usually does not work out. Teams like the Patriots, Miami Heat, Spurs... They want to continue winning. They take their lumps in down years, but they get back to competitive form much more rapidly than teams who blow it up and start from scratch. Not saying that they don't change direction or change their style of play or whatever, they have. The difference is that they have done it more gradually with the key ideology of always trying to be the most competitive they possibly could be along the way, instead of the mindset of we're welcome losing now, but one day when everything is perfect we'll win. I'm sorry, I can't get behind that. I was at least happy to see cgc angry towards the end of the year, at least there's some sign of wanting to win. I'm just tired of all the excuses. I think some fans see that it's not so much the players not fitting what we are trying to do (not saying this is not the case, because it somewhat is) but it's also, maybe moreso, the staff generally not having much experience at this level. I'm just so tried of constantly hearing the excuses of it's all the players fault, we didn't have this and we didn't have that. Maybe our coaches weren't all ready for this level yet? That's fine too because we have a certain budget and we can afford what we can afford. That may mean we need more patience to get them up to speed, which is also fine. Two things however, continuing to have less than 5 win seasons should be unacceptable and people need to quit blaming the whole situation on players because it's a lame excuse. [/QUOTE]
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