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<blockquote data-quote="Pointer" data-source="post: 771010" data-attributes="member: 4719"><p>First I'll start with I completely agree that attrition is a legitimate reason for struggles along the LOS. Last year was even more valid on both lines, but especially on O-line. This year, we have the bug especially on D-line, but in my opinion this reason/excuse hold less water because most other teams are struggling with attrition (this year) as well. Year one, our attrition was well above average compared to other teams, this year, I'm not so sure.</p><p></p><p>Kicker, to me, is rarely a coaching issue, and I think we agree here.</p><p></p><p>I will say I expected more from our DB's specifically due to the fact they are directly coaches by Collins and were rated fairly highly for GT standards as far as recruits. Again there were outside issues one being riq two weeks off of having casts on both hands before the first game.</p><p></p><p>Where I disagree, however, is the power 5 offer arguement on offensive line. Firstly, GT has never been a dominant recruiting school, and certainly not on LOS. I'm not sure if you or others expected to have a stable of sought after linemen as the requirement for a new coach to come in and be competitive right away. Is this the requirement?</p><p>Second, looking at a team that is well thought of in regards to offensive line, but recruits closer to our level, things get interesting. Boston college has been considered one of the highest output of NFL offensive linemen. I looked though their recruits offers on offensive line back through 2016 and it's really not much different from what we have here (I stopped at 2016 because that is what the new coach is working with this season and he seems to be doing just fine with it, also it's a ton of work doing this on my phone). Including the transfers this and last year for us on offensive line, it's pretty much the same as far as P5 offers goes.</p><p></p><p>Looking at their offensive line recruits starting 2019 and back:</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 26px">2019</span></strong></p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=199066[/MEDIA]</p><p><strong>Jack Conley offers:</strong></p><p>Arizona State</p><p>Buffalo</p><p>Fordham</p><p>Indiana</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=224862[/MEDIA]</p><p><strong>Blerim Rustemi offers:</strong></p><p>Army</p><p>Buffalo</p><p>Connecticut</p><p>East Carolina</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=202160[/MEDIA]</p><p><strong>Christian Mahogany offers:</strong></p><p>Pittsburgh</p><p>Rutgers</p><p>Buffalo</p><p>Central Michigan</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 26px">2018</span></strong></p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=139801[/MEDIA]</p><p><strong>Finn Dirstine Offers:</strong></p><p>Colorado state</p><p>Dartmouth</p><p>Illinois</p><p>Massachusetts</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=172647[/MEDIA]</p><p><strong>Thomas Shelmore offers:</strong></p><p>Army</p><p>Colorado state</p><p>Fordham</p><p>Navy</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=197288[/MEDIA]</p><p><strong>Tyler Vrabel offers:</strong></p><p>Cincinnati</p><p>Houston</p><p>Ohio (not OSU)</p><p>Memphis</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 26px">2017</span></strong></p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=70625[/MEDIA]</p><p><strong>Ben Peteula offers:</strong> (this one has P5 offers)</p><p>South Carolina</p><p>North Carolina</p><p>Rutgers</p><p>Kentucky</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=189845[/MEDIA]</p><p><strong>Alex Lindstrom offers:</strong></p><p>Massachusetts</p><p>Kansas</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://247sports.com/Player/Nathaniel-Emer-92444/high-school-177544/[/URL]</p><p><strong>Nathaniel Emer offers</strong>:</p><p>Seems like BC was his only offer, another 2 star recruit.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 26px">2016</span></strong></p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://247sports.com/Player/Sean-Ragan-72186/high-school-125194/[/URL]</p><p><strong>Sean Eagan offers: </strong>(decent list)</p><p>Miami</p><p>Connecticut</p><p>Maryland</p><p>Penn State</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://247sports.com/Player/Tom-Kowalkoski-78228/high-school-136134/[/URL]</p><p><strong>Tom Kowalkoski offers:</strong></p><p>Cincinnati</p><p>Miami (Ohio)</p><p>Ball State</p><p>Toledo</p><p></p><p>To me the P5 offers thing on offensive line really doesn't hold much water.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pointer, post: 771010, member: 4719"] First I'll start with I completely agree that attrition is a legitimate reason for struggles along the LOS. Last year was even more valid on both lines, but especially on O-line. This year, we have the bug especially on D-line, but in my opinion this reason/excuse hold less water because most other teams are struggling with attrition (this year) as well. Year one, our attrition was well above average compared to other teams, this year, I'm not so sure. Kicker, to me, is rarely a coaching issue, and I think we agree here. I will say I expected more from our DB's specifically due to the fact they are directly coaches by Collins and were rated fairly highly for GT standards as far as recruits. Again there were outside issues one being riq two weeks off of having casts on both hands before the first game. Where I disagree, however, is the power 5 offer arguement on offensive line. Firstly, GT has never been a dominant recruiting school, and certainly not on LOS. I'm not sure if you or others expected to have a stable of sought after linemen as the requirement for a new coach to come in and be competitive right away. Is this the requirement? Second, looking at a team that is well thought of in regards to offensive line, but recruits closer to our level, things get interesting. Boston college has been considered one of the highest output of NFL offensive linemen. I looked though their recruits offers on offensive line back through 2016 and it's really not much different from what we have here (I stopped at 2016 because that is what the new coach is working with this season and he seems to be doing just fine with it, also it's a ton of work doing this on my phone). Including the transfers this and last year for us on offensive line, it's pretty much the same as far as P5 offers goes. Looking at their offensive line recruits starting 2019 and back: [B][SIZE=7]2019[/SIZE][/B] [MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=199066[/MEDIA] [B]Jack Conley offers:[/B] Arizona State Buffalo Fordham Indiana [MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=224862[/MEDIA] [B]Blerim Rustemi offers:[/B] Army Buffalo Connecticut East Carolina [MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=202160[/MEDIA] [B]Christian Mahogany offers:[/B] Pittsburgh Rutgers Buffalo Central Michigan [B][SIZE=7]2018[/SIZE][/B] [MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=139801[/MEDIA] [B]Finn Dirstine Offers:[/B] Colorado state Dartmouth Illinois Massachusetts [MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=172647[/MEDIA] [B]Thomas Shelmore offers:[/B] Army Colorado state Fordham Navy [MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=197288[/MEDIA] [B]Tyler Vrabel offers:[/B] Cincinnati Houston Ohio (not OSU) Memphis [B][SIZE=7]2017[/SIZE][/B] [MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=70625[/MEDIA] [B]Ben Peteula offers:[/B] (this one has P5 offers) South Carolina North Carolina Rutgers Kentucky [MEDIA=twentyfoursevensports]player_id=189845[/MEDIA] [B]Alex Lindstrom offers:[/B] Massachusetts Kansas [URL unfurl="true"]https://247sports.com/Player/Nathaniel-Emer-92444/high-school-177544/[/URL] [B]Nathaniel Emer offers[/B]: Seems like BC was his only offer, another 2 star recruit. [B][SIZE=7]2016[/SIZE][/B] [URL unfurl="true"]https://247sports.com/Player/Sean-Ragan-72186/high-school-125194/[/URL] [B]Sean Eagan offers: [/B](decent list) Miami Connecticut Maryland Penn State [URL unfurl="true"]https://247sports.com/Player/Tom-Kowalkoski-78228/high-school-136134/[/URL] [B]Tom Kowalkoski offers:[/B] Cincinnati Miami (Ohio) Ball State Toledo To me the P5 offers thing on offensive line really doesn't hold much water. [/QUOTE]
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