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<blockquote data-quote="Northeast Stinger" data-source="post: 864079" data-attributes="member: 1640"><p>I hate to say it but you are wrong. The idea of fostering a close personal relationship is a fairly modern interpretation and not the spirit of the book of discipline. John Wesley, and for a couple of centuries after that, saw this as a professional relationship not a personal one. Professional relationships keep certain boundaries. </p><p></p><p> If I am a pastor and a former pastor contacts a church member of mine without my consent that is a chargeable offense in several denominations and I can take that minister to trial. Obviously I would have to decide in my own mind whether there was malicious intent or whether it was causing harm to my ability to minister to that person but the rule is pretty clear. To be fair fewer and fewer ministers follow the rules of their own denominations. Frankly one reason churches have been in a 40 year long decline, not the only reason or the main one, is that church life has gotten more centered around personality cults rather than doctrines or polity or even worship style. I don’t want to get off in the weeds about that but just to say that professional rules were important to many denominations in the past and many of those have eroded over time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Northeast Stinger, post: 864079, member: 1640"] I hate to say it but you are wrong. The idea of fostering a close personal relationship is a fairly modern interpretation and not the spirit of the book of discipline. John Wesley, and for a couple of centuries after that, saw this as a professional relationship not a personal one. Professional relationships keep certain boundaries. If I am a pastor and a former pastor contacts a church member of mine without my consent that is a chargeable offense in several denominations and I can take that minister to trial. Obviously I would have to decide in my own mind whether there was malicious intent or whether it was causing harm to my ability to minister to that person but the rule is pretty clear. To be fair fewer and fewer ministers follow the rules of their own denominations. Frankly one reason churches have been in a 40 year long decline, not the only reason or the main one, is that church life has gotten more centered around personality cults rather than doctrines or polity or even worship style. I don’t want to get off in the weeds about that but just to say that professional rules were important to many denominations in the past and many of those have eroded over time. [/QUOTE]
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