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<blockquote data-quote="JacketOff" data-source="post: 743945" data-attributes="member: 4572"><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p>Here we go. But I’ll play.</p><p>CPJ averaged 7.8 wins at Tech</p><p>He won 8 or more games 5 times in 11 years</p><p>He won 7 or fewer games 6 times in 11 years</p><p>He went 3-6 in bowl games</p><p>He went 1-1 in the ACCCG</p><p>He went 51-37 in ACC play</p><p>His teams finished the season ranked 3 times</p><p></p><p>Those are <em>very </em>average numbers for a P5 program. I’d be willing to be that Tech was among the most average P5 programs in the country over PJs tenure. Most of PJs biggest years happened early in his tenure, as we all know. 3 of his 5 8+ win seasons occurred in the <em>first</em> 4 years of his tenure. 3 of his 6 <=7 win seasons occurred in the <em>last </em>4.</p><p></p><p>If we <em>only </em>judged PJ on his first 7 years as HC, then yeah, it’s fair to say that achieving that level of success would be adequate for what Collins was hired to do. But if you look at PJs entire body of work, it was pretty unimpressive.</p><p></p><p>What Late Kick, and many others, believe is that while PJs first 7 years were solid and made GT somewhat relevant, those 7 years can become the norm for GT. Playing in the ACCCG, finishing the year ranked, beating UGA, spending multiple weeks per year in the Top 25, playing in NY6 games.... those can be achieved much more regularly than a couple times every 11 years.</p><p></p><p>I don’t think anybody is expecting GT to become the next Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, etc. But many think that GT <em>can </em>get to the level of places like Auburn, Michigan State, Washington, Wisconsin, Utah, etc. Places that are regularly ranked, challenge their bigger rivals, play for conference championships, and have an outside shot to get into the CFP every year. Recruiting in the top 20 consistently is a very achievable goal. I don’t think Tech will ever recruit in the Top 7 or so, but a great class can get to the 8-15 range. The 2022 class has potential to get that range.</p><p></p><p>The point is, nobody is saying CPJ wasn't a great coach, or didn’t do great things at Tech. I wish people would get that out of their heads. The point is that CPJ’s most successful years are attainable on a consistent basis, and not sporadically over a decade or so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JacketOff, post: 743945, member: 4572"] :rolleyes: Here we go. But I’ll play. CPJ averaged 7.8 wins at Tech He won 8 or more games 5 times in 11 years He won 7 or fewer games 6 times in 11 years He went 3-6 in bowl games He went 1-1 in the ACCCG He went 51-37 in ACC play His teams finished the season ranked 3 times Those are [I]very [/I]average numbers for a P5 program. I’d be willing to be that Tech was among the most average P5 programs in the country over PJs tenure. Most of PJs biggest years happened early in his tenure, as we all know. 3 of his 5 8+ win seasons occurred in the [I]first[/I] 4 years of his tenure. 3 of his 6 <=7 win seasons occurred in the [I]last [/I]4. If we [I]only [/I]judged PJ on his first 7 years as HC, then yeah, it’s fair to say that achieving that level of success would be adequate for what Collins was hired to do. But if you look at PJs entire body of work, it was pretty unimpressive. What Late Kick, and many others, believe is that while PJs first 7 years were solid and made GT somewhat relevant, those 7 years can become the norm for GT. Playing in the ACCCG, finishing the year ranked, beating UGA, spending multiple weeks per year in the Top 25, playing in NY6 games.... those can be achieved much more regularly than a couple times every 11 years. I don’t think anybody is expecting GT to become the next Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, etc. But many think that GT [I]can [/I]get to the level of places like Auburn, Michigan State, Washington, Wisconsin, Utah, etc. Places that are regularly ranked, challenge their bigger rivals, play for conference championships, and have an outside shot to get into the CFP every year. Recruiting in the top 20 consistently is a very achievable goal. I don’t think Tech will ever recruit in the Top 7 or so, but a great class can get to the 8-15 range. The 2022 class has potential to get that range. The point is, nobody is saying CPJ wasn't a great coach, or didn’t do great things at Tech. I wish people would get that out of their heads. The point is that CPJ’s most successful years are attainable on a consistent basis, and not sporadically over a decade or so. [/QUOTE]
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