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The ACC will delay the start of competition for all fall sports until at least Sept. 1
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<blockquote data-quote="RonJohn" data-source="post: 734390" data-attributes="member: 2426"><p>What school exactly are you referring to? What exactly have then been doing "all summer" long? Can you name even one?</p><p></p><p>I don't know of <strong>any </strong>school that has been in session "all summer". I haven't kept up with football programs from other schools, but I am not aware of any program that has been operating during the summer the same as they did last year.</p><p></p><p>You asked why cancel the season. I stated some reasonable reasons that the schools/conferences might not want to have football this fall.</p><p>You stated that teams have been conducting football and proven over the summer that it is safe. I pointed out that teams have not been conducting normal football.</p><p>You now say that "Schools around the country" have been doing something with kids "all summer". I am pointing out that schools have not been in session "all summer".</p><p>Now you will undoubtedly point to something else. Maybe people ate at Waffle House "all summer" long?</p><p></p><p>I will point you back to your original question and my first response in this exchange.</p><p></p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The NCAA/conferences/teams are currently lobbying congress to get favorable treatment. IF there are player safety issues, any chance of getting favorable treatment evaporates.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In the current climate, if one player dies from COVID-19, the PR will be so bad that it could be the end of college athletics. Not just a problem. Not just governmental oversight. It could force colleges to stop fielding teams.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Without any kind of COVID-19 liability waiver, there <strong>will </strong>be lawsuits. Some players are going to get sick no matter what the NCAA/conferences/teams do. Even if nobody gets sick from team activities, they are on campus and somebody will get sick. If several players on several teams get sick, it could be a class action lawsuit against the NCAA/conference. Go back to the first point. Getting favorable treatment from congress will be impossible when facing a class action lawsuit for causing injury to "kids" in the group you want to get favorable treatment from.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The NCAA is not going to be able to sustain a bubble like NBA or Premier League. If they could, then the players wouldn't even resemble "students".(back to favorable treatment argument)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">An MLB type bubble will have several problems. Student athletes will have to attend class. Student athletes are very likely to attend parties, even if it isn't allowed. Once there is a player infected on a team, it will probably travel through the team the same way that it has traveled through MLB teams. In addition, football is more likely to spread the virus from one team to another than MLB.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In order to test all FBS programs three time a week it would require about 1% of ALL COVID-19 tests conducted in the US. I don't know how many of the tests have results available within a day, but to get those results within a day it will require providing fast results for asymptomatic sports teams while delaying results for people who are quarantined because they have some symptoms.</li> </ul><p>I have answered your question and provided several reasonable reasons that the teams/conferences might decide not to play this fall. It is possible that there are ways to answer/mitigate some or all of those. I think that is doubtful since the teams/conference/NCAA have had since mid-March to address them and as of yet have not. </p><p></p><p>Your question sounds dismissive: "I mean really, where is the logic?" If the season if postponed until spring, you and I might disagree with it. We might disagree with the stated reasoning behind it. However, to say that there is zero reason is pretty flippant.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RonJohn, post: 734390, member: 2426"] What school exactly are you referring to? What exactly have then been doing "all summer" long? Can you name even one? I don't know of [B]any [/B]school that has been in session "all summer". I haven't kept up with football programs from other schools, but I am not aware of any program that has been operating during the summer the same as they did last year. You asked why cancel the season. I stated some reasonable reasons that the schools/conferences might not want to have football this fall. You stated that teams have been conducting football and proven over the summer that it is safe. I pointed out that teams have not been conducting normal football. You now say that "Schools around the country" have been doing something with kids "all summer". I am pointing out that schools have not been in session "all summer". Now you will undoubtedly point to something else. Maybe people ate at Waffle House "all summer" long? I will point you back to your original question and my first response in this exchange. [LIST] [*]The NCAA/conferences/teams are currently lobbying congress to get favorable treatment. IF there are player safety issues, any chance of getting favorable treatment evaporates. [*]In the current climate, if one player dies from COVID-19, the PR will be so bad that it could be the end of college athletics. Not just a problem. Not just governmental oversight. It could force colleges to stop fielding teams. [*]Without any kind of COVID-19 liability waiver, there [B]will [/B]be lawsuits. Some players are going to get sick no matter what the NCAA/conferences/teams do. Even if nobody gets sick from team activities, they are on campus and somebody will get sick. If several players on several teams get sick, it could be a class action lawsuit against the NCAA/conference. Go back to the first point. Getting favorable treatment from congress will be impossible when facing a class action lawsuit for causing injury to "kids" in the group you want to get favorable treatment from. [*]The NCAA is not going to be able to sustain a bubble like NBA or Premier League. If they could, then the players wouldn't even resemble "students".(back to favorable treatment argument) [*]An MLB type bubble will have several problems. Student athletes will have to attend class. Student athletes are very likely to attend parties, even if it isn't allowed. Once there is a player infected on a team, it will probably travel through the team the same way that it has traveled through MLB teams. In addition, football is more likely to spread the virus from one team to another than MLB. [*]In order to test all FBS programs three time a week it would require about 1% of ALL COVID-19 tests conducted in the US. I don't know how many of the tests have results available within a day, but to get those results within a day it will require providing fast results for asymptomatic sports teams while delaying results for people who are quarantined because they have some symptoms. [/LIST] I have answered your question and provided several reasonable reasons that the teams/conferences might decide not to play this fall. It is possible that there are ways to answer/mitigate some or all of those. I think that is doubtful since the teams/conference/NCAA have had since mid-March to address them and as of yet have not. Your question sounds dismissive: "I mean really, where is the logic?" If the season if postponed until spring, you and I might disagree with it. We might disagree with the stated reasoning behind it. However, to say that there is zero reason is pretty flippant. [/QUOTE]
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