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<blockquote data-quote="RamblinRed" data-source="post: 726580" data-attributes="member: 1776"><p>At the NCAA level (all levels from Div 1 on down) - 33 football players died between 2000 and 2016. 27 of them were classified as non-traumatic deaths (ie. they did not die due to being hit - almost all the deaths occurred in off-season conditioning - 8 in winter workouts, 6 in summer workouts, 10 in August workouts, 2 in September conditioning, 1 in November non-physical practice). 12 due to exertional collapse associated with sickle cell trait, 9 due to sudden cardiac death, 5 due to exertional heat stroke and 1 due to Asthma. </p><p>Back in the early-to-mid 1970's an avg of 30 college football players died a year due to traumatic head or neck injury. In 1976 NCAA passed the no spearing rule. Deaths reduced by over 50% within the first year and within 5 years there were less than 1 death per year due to traumatic injury. Right now it is about 1 traumatic death every 3 years for players at all NCAA levels. </p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5343527/#:~:text=Since%202000%2C%2033%20National%20Collegiate,football%20players%20die%20per%20season" target="_blank">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5343527/#:~:text=Since 2000, 33 National Collegiate,football players die per season</a>.</p><p>FWIW only one of the 9 deaths due to sickle cell trait has occured since 2010 after NCAA implemented procedures mandating testing for sickle-cell trait. </p><p>Also interestingly, the almost all of the non-traumatic deaths have occurred at the Div 1 level, of the 6 traumatic injuries 4 have occurred at the Div 1 level and 2 at a level below Division. </p><p></p><p>In the CDC study I linked yesterday, roughly 1/4 of 10-19 and 20-29 yr olds who were hospitalized with COVID had underlying conditions, 1/3 of ICU patients in those age ranges had underlying conditions, and 40% of the 20-29 and 50% of the 10-19 yr old deaths had underlying conditions. The numbers are US numbers.</p><p>Deaths in both the 10-19 and 20-29 age groups are 0.1%. (one out of every 1,000). Now we are probably only capturing 1/10 of cases to this point so that would put the rate at 0.01% - 1 out of 10,000. We are also not capturing all the deaths so if you assume the 50% excess death rate that gives you a 0.015% rate or about 1 out of every 6,666 people. </p><p>it's certainly no guarantee that a young man playing college football will die and the odds in just FBS would be a little over 50/50. The odds at least one player in some level of college football will die is fairly high. Probably north of 75-80%. </p><p></p><p>All of this to say you are considerably more likely as a college football player to die from COVID than playing football. I wouldn't argue for not playing football due to a player potentially dying, the odds probably wouldn't favor that. The argument for not playing football is the chance it spreads into non 18-21 yr old players and kills a higher percentage there. That would be more common among coaches, support staff and fans.</p><p></p><p>I'll close by adding that in some ways we do probably underestimate the risk of the players due to them being in 'great physical condition'. The Medical Director for the NFLPA pointed out that many football players even being in great physical condition are going to have underlying conditions that make them a higher risk (especially African-American players).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RamblinRed, post: 726580, member: 1776"] At the NCAA level (all levels from Div 1 on down) - 33 football players died between 2000 and 2016. 27 of them were classified as non-traumatic deaths (ie. they did not die due to being hit - almost all the deaths occurred in off-season conditioning - 8 in winter workouts, 6 in summer workouts, 10 in August workouts, 2 in September conditioning, 1 in November non-physical practice). 12 due to exertional collapse associated with sickle cell trait, 9 due to sudden cardiac death, 5 due to exertional heat stroke and 1 due to Asthma. Back in the early-to-mid 1970's an avg of 30 college football players died a year due to traumatic head or neck injury. In 1976 NCAA passed the no spearing rule. Deaths reduced by over 50% within the first year and within 5 years there were less than 1 death per year due to traumatic injury. Right now it is about 1 traumatic death every 3 years for players at all NCAA levels. [URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5343527/#:~:text=Since%202000%2C%2033%20National%20Collegiate,football%20players%20die%20per%20season[/URL]. FWIW only one of the 9 deaths due to sickle cell trait has occured since 2010 after NCAA implemented procedures mandating testing for sickle-cell trait. Also interestingly, the almost all of the non-traumatic deaths have occurred at the Div 1 level, of the 6 traumatic injuries 4 have occurred at the Div 1 level and 2 at a level below Division. In the CDC study I linked yesterday, roughly 1/4 of 10-19 and 20-29 yr olds who were hospitalized with COVID had underlying conditions, 1/3 of ICU patients in those age ranges had underlying conditions, and 40% of the 20-29 and 50% of the 10-19 yr old deaths had underlying conditions. The numbers are US numbers. Deaths in both the 10-19 and 20-29 age groups are 0.1%. (one out of every 1,000). Now we are probably only capturing 1/10 of cases to this point so that would put the rate at 0.01% - 1 out of 10,000. We are also not capturing all the deaths so if you assume the 50% excess death rate that gives you a 0.015% rate or about 1 out of every 6,666 people. it's certainly no guarantee that a young man playing college football will die and the odds in just FBS would be a little over 50/50. The odds at least one player in some level of college football will die is fairly high. Probably north of 75-80%. All of this to say you are considerably more likely as a college football player to die from COVID than playing football. I wouldn't argue for not playing football due to a player potentially dying, the odds probably wouldn't favor that. The argument for not playing football is the chance it spreads into non 18-21 yr old players and kills a higher percentage there. That would be more common among coaches, support staff and fans. I'll close by adding that in some ways we do probably underestimate the risk of the players due to them being in 'great physical condition'. The Medical Director for the NFLPA pointed out that many football players even being in great physical condition are going to have underlying conditions that make them a higher risk (especially African-American players). [/QUOTE]
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