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<blockquote data-quote="Jean-Baptiste Rochambeau" data-source="post: 354822" data-attributes="member: 1017"><p>My reference about relevance was restricted to the remainder of this season. I don't happen to think we are any longer in the running for the division. JMO, but we are a game behind Miami now, with Clemson and Virginia Tech left to play. That would likely leave us at a minimum of three conference losses, requiring Miami to lose four times in conference. Again, my opinion, but I don't see that happening. We had our destiny in our hands, but didn't make the plays necessary. Not the first time, won't be the last time. We are a solid, middle tier team in the ACC now, similar to Duke, Wake, and now UVA. Flip a coin on those games. We might play the role of spoiler relative to who wins the division, but it won't be us, and it shouldn't be us. This is what we wanted, for the conference to get better as a whole. I think it has, but along with that comes the requirement that we get better as well, if we want to "be relevant". 2-8 against Miami, when Miami had Randy Shannon and Al Golden and were mediocre at best, unfortunately defines where we are. 3-7 against Virginia Tech while Beamer was playing out the string--same thing. If we want to win the division, then we need to win games. And not just games against terrible Pittsburgh and Carolina teams. Once again, we are only a partial team, Strong but not yet dominating on offense, a little better on defense--but not yet able to win a game or protect a lead with our defense; and special teams again a glaring liability. I realize it must be extremely difficult to get all the parts and pieces together at one time, but even taking out the top dozen programs, there appears to be another 25 or thirty programs that get it done better than we do every year</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jean-Baptiste Rochambeau, post: 354822, member: 1017"] My reference about relevance was restricted to the remainder of this season. I don't happen to think we are any longer in the running for the division. JMO, but we are a game behind Miami now, with Clemson and Virginia Tech left to play. That would likely leave us at a minimum of three conference losses, requiring Miami to lose four times in conference. Again, my opinion, but I don't see that happening. We had our destiny in our hands, but didn't make the plays necessary. Not the first time, won't be the last time. We are a solid, middle tier team in the ACC now, similar to Duke, Wake, and now UVA. Flip a coin on those games. We might play the role of spoiler relative to who wins the division, but it won't be us, and it shouldn't be us. This is what we wanted, for the conference to get better as a whole. I think it has, but along with that comes the requirement that we get better as well, if we want to "be relevant". 2-8 against Miami, when Miami had Randy Shannon and Al Golden and were mediocre at best, unfortunately defines where we are. 3-7 against Virginia Tech while Beamer was playing out the string--same thing. If we want to win the division, then we need to win games. And not just games against terrible Pittsburgh and Carolina teams. Once again, we are only a partial team, Strong but not yet dominating on offense, a little better on defense--but not yet able to win a game or protect a lead with our defense; and special teams again a glaring liability. I realize it must be extremely difficult to get all the parts and pieces together at one time, but even taking out the top dozen programs, there appears to be another 25 or thirty programs that get it done better than we do every year [/QUOTE]
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